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No wasted space, that's for sure.... Now to find a nice second hand Hust C+ Shifter...

or better yet a V-Gate (ramrod)....

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Cool project! Is this a second car?

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I love the 4-speed choice. I have 2 spare Ramrods if your interested (1-Mr. Gasket, 1 newer Hurst), I went to a Long with the G-force, and the others on the shelf. PM if your interested.
Are you going to be able to keep that long rod behind the carbs with the new hood?

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Thanks Andre, yes the rods can stay but I just scored a brand new race weight fiberglass hood that will get cut up and Dzus fastened, I'll keep the stock hood just in case I change the tunnel ram out some day...?????

I am amazed at how solid this car is

You have a PM

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Cool project! Is this a second car?

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Jim it's the same valiant that I originally posted.

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Jim it's the same valiant that I originally posted.

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I meant a second race car, do you still have the vette? Or is this a street project?

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Sorry, no the vette is goooone and now resides in South Carolina, still have the 565, just sold the glide and vert This one will serve double duty, but mainly a fun street cruiser

Fun to be back messing with Mopars

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Might want to look up another transmission , the old ball & trunion joints weren't the strongest .

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Rick, I hate to break it to ya, but that hood ain't gonna clear the air cleaners, not unless you slam down that hood, REALLY hard!!....

I thought you were going for the sleeper look, but hey, I totally dig the street freak look as well!

Are you planning to mini-tub it? With a 4 speed and a 408, them little back tires will be SCREAMIN' FOR MERCY!!

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No Tubbing a set of 9" Drag Radials will have to do

That darn t-ram just sitting on the shelf finally got to me

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Well have gathered up enough parts and pieces to do a little mock-up on the valiant....cut-out the trans tunnel today for the 4-speed and slid the motor and tranny in for a trial fit....fits like a glove....so far so good

Buddy dropped of a 360 block today also....if it ck's out, looks like an upgrade from the 318/390 to 360/408 is in the future plans....again

Also scored a brand new never mounted race-weight fiberglass hood, so I won't have to carve up the stock hood













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don't see any headers in "the glove".

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Rickster - not being rude, but are you aware of the header options?

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Yes sir....right now it's a toss-up between TTI & Dougs, I am looking into a custom set from a local guy, but need to do some thorough research on his work...

Any recommendations will always be appreciated

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Nice , clean rust free Texas floor ..and whats he do ?

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Car is looking good there Rick. Glad to see someone get it from Bill and do something with it.

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Thanks Kim, how's it going with the altered....???? Tell the guys hey for me at the next breakfast

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I thought you were going for the sleeper look, but hey, I totally dig the street freak look as well!

Are you planning to mini-tub it? With a 4 speed and a 408, them little back tires will be SCREAMIN' FOR MERCY!!

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Then I suppose a full backhalf with 14x32's is out of the question.

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That's a great look, just not what I'm going with, trying to stay more old-school..but don't want it sitting up in the air either...so I guess in the end it will be a mixture in keeping with not cutting the car up....hence the fiberglass hood

I like the idea of keeping the back seat....no roll bars



Tossing around picking these up for the fronts...15x4 Ansen's





and going with steelies in the back....what'ya think....?????????

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What color paint are you thinking?

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Not sure on the code yet, but the same color as the interior, I believe it's a medium or light blue metallic....need to find out, when I look at the paint chips online for 64 plymouth the light blue seems too light and the medium blue metallic seems too dark....

If you look at the color of vinyl seat trim in the above pic, it is very close to that

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i could be mistaken Rick
but i dont think either header will allow for clutch hardware/z-bars..
a friend was just showing me his 69 dart 4spd
he used a hydralic throwout bearing..
some kit thats out there...fwiw...

i suspect your going to need to modify the wheel house and strech the wheel opening...
i know on a baracuda the rear wells are tiney...
fwiw..
cheers
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Not sure on the Doug's, but TTI has a (NEW)chassis exit set for 64-65's that is (supposed) to fit all steering types and 4-speed 10.5 bell-housing(with zbar)they are 1 5/8" stepped to 1 3/4" merged to 3" collector which would be perfect for my combo

They do require a RobbMc Performance Mini Starter part # 2005 $299.99 But I do hear they are a nice piece

They also offer a full 3" exhaust to the rear bumper that is sweet.....gonna have to save up some coins

Only going to run a 27"tire and it will fit without modification....actually from my measuring a 30" tire will fit, just limited on width with the stock spring and no minitub

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Thanks Mark, do you have the Schumacher Motor Mounts also...?????

Dougs makes a nice header....happy to see they fit well....I wonder how they fit with a 4-speed z-bar....?????

What oil pan are you running...????

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Thanks Mark, do you have the Schumacher Motor Mounts also...?????

Dougs makes a nice header....happy to see they fit well....I wonder how they fit with a 4-speed z-bar....?????

What oil pan are you running...????

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This is going to sound crazy, but the motor mounts are home made. Just took the solid mounts that were on the engine when we got it off the wrecking pile and modified them to fit the cross member. The procedure went something like this:

Drank a couple beers. Bolted the mounts to the engine, lowered the engine into the bay, bolted up the transmission, and then set the engine where it "looked right". Drank another beer (or 2). Tack welded the mounts in place. Removed engine and tranny and built mounting ears to weld to the K-member for the mounts to hook to. Drank another beer and re-installed everything.

The oil pan is also home made. It's just the stock pan with the sump extended a couple inches for more capacity. Oil pick-up tube was extended to match.

It's nice having a mad-scientist/mechanic/machinist/paint & body man for a brother! Thanks 6bblFLASH.

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That would have taken me at least an 18 pack to accomplish, but the again when I think about it, I could have bought 5 or 6 cases for what mine cost....

I may do the same with the oil pan, hoping to pick up a nice mig welding pkg this weekend I found on craigslist

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Only going to run a 27"tire and it will fit without modification....actually from my measuring a 30" tire will fit, just limited on width with the stock spring and no minitub

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I'm not sure how much different your wheel well is on your car vs. a 69 Dart, but.....

My 69 Dart with a stock width 8.75", stock wheel well and spring location could fit a 15x7" Ramcharger wheel perfectly. Some wheel companies still carry them. I got mine for $45 a piece 6-8 years ago. A dog dish hubcap will cover 3" wheel studs too

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I'm not sure how much different your wheel well is on your car vs. a 69 Dart, but.....

My 69 Dart with a stock width 8.75", stock wheel well and spring location could fit a 15x7" Ramcharger wheel perfectly. Some wheel companies still carry them. I got mine for $45 a piece 6-8 years ago. A dog dish hubcap will cover 3" wheel studs too

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That little sucker is gonna be cool Just a suggestion, might want to consider B5 blue. I think it would come close to matching the interior and would look great.

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Not sure on the code yet, but the same color as the interior, I believe it's a medium or light blue metallic....need to find out, when I look at the paint chips online for 64 plymouth the light blue seems too light and the medium blue metallic seems too dark....

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Rickster, my vote goes for the paint that is on the car now. Love that old paint.

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If you're referring to my sig pic, that's my Valiant(mini tubbed, 11.5x28 Hoosier). My 69 Dart had a 255/75 15 M/T drag radial. I don't have any pics of it with the steel rims or I'd post them.

Now that I think about it, my 8.75" had Moser axles which required B-body brakes. I think the axle was a 1/2" wider each side with the Moser's.

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I'm planning on running either the M/T P255/60/15dr's or the Diamond-Back Redline Nitto's, more than likely the M/T's their easier on the pocket

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OK, I meant 255/60. Not 255/75 I've run the Nitto 555's on a few cars and they work good. Mid 11's on a five year old set, lol. Haven't seen the Diamond Backs yet.

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I went with Spitfire headers. They are shorties and a ton cheaper than TTIs, I think I paid $200 and had them coated for $75.

Spitfire Headers
Harold Johnson
479-650-9989
Ft Smith, Arkansas

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Spitfire Headers
Harold Johnson
479-650-9989
Ft Smith, Arkansas

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Nice looking cuda Wade That # for Harold is no longer a working #

I just passed up a set that were on fleabay that went for just under $300 uncoated....not a bad looking piece and I was impressed with the thickness of the flanges, but not too excited how the two tubes dump at a 90* angle into the collector, but for the money...okay I appreciate the help, but will go the full header route down the road, plenty of time to save up

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To me it matches the original interior color the closest.





One sweet looking valiant....anyone happen to know the owner....?????

Isn't B3 more of a Petty Blue....?????

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V100 Sedans got the post, V200's are the Hardtop no post.

Not sure on the weight, but according to NHRA shipping weights it's very light, like 2700# quite a bit less than the cuda. I'm hoping to be right around 3000# wet with driver, I've taken quite a bit of weight out and added some also;

Here's a few new pics.....

Got the hump fitted with the Ramrod Shifter.



New Tuff Wheel.



Li'l better pic of the nose....need to find another good deal on an Edelbrock 600 (1406)



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lookin real good rickster

I see the hump needed a little trim with the ramrod shifter...would a reg stock hurst shifter fit the hole?? wondering just for referance...

A regular hurst 4-spd would have fit perfect - the ramrod boot will cover all the cut-out section perfect

did the holes in the floor need trimed or are they big enuff they way we cut them??

Didn't have to touch what we originally cut....we're good.....!!!!!!

nice tuff wheel also

Thanks, wasn't sure if I'd like it or not, but now that it's installed I do.

did you cut your stock hood or is that the light hood you talked about???

It's the stock hood, didn't want to drive for 3 hours to ck out the US BODY hood....these aren't that rare and I did keep the cut out just in case....lol

I guess i could trade you the V-stack back for another aircleaner set up for the 440

maybe a nice K&N with the extrem top

{{{{ NICE TRY }}}}

next time I am down I will bring some rods and see if you will let me use the welder under your bench to weld the spring pads on my truck...which are not done yet

Just let me know when you want to do it....!!!!!!

beers are on me next time around buddy

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My 69 Dart with a stock width 8.75", stock wheel well and spring location could fit a 15x7" Ramcharger wheel perfectly. Some wheel companies still carry them. I got mine for $45 a piece 6-8 years ago. A dog dish hubcap will cover 3" wheel studs too

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My 69 Dart with a stock width 8.75", stock wheel well and spring location could fit a 15x7" Ramcharger wheel perfectly. Some wheel companies still carry them. I got mine for $45 a piece 6-8 years ago. A dog dish hubcap will cover 3" wheel studs too

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There's a guy up in PA that can make 15x8 steelies in any backspace you want. I had them on the Fury, cost $65 each, IIRC.

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If you're puttin' any power in front of it just upgrade the axles and get 5 on 4 1/2"!

Then order the steel Wheel Vintiques 15x8's through Summit Racing dirt cheap.

Same $$$ outlay + better parts.

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SOLD SOLD SOLD....sadly been sitting on the back burner for quite some time...too many grown-up responsibilities to focus on Had offers on the 408 and the car that I couldn't refuse so there gone.

FYI.....the 408 went to a local Mopar guy that put it in his Scamp (gorgeous car) had it on a chassis dyno and pulled 391HP at the rear wheels....so I was pretty happy with the work Mike Thompson did on the engine 450 plus at the crank for a J-Headed Stroker

Still have the tunnel ram setup....if anyone is interested it's listed in the classified section...???

Rickster