Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
[Re: Joshs68]
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06/28/10 09:13 AM
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I'll say it again.......90% of making one hook is in the FRONT END, especially with a drag radial.........How loose is your front end and what kind of shocks???? You're running 106 now, and that's enough for 12.40's with an automatic, slicks, and a 4,500+ converter...........If you want to run 12.50's with a 4-speed, you're going to have to work your butt off.........and by that I mean you HAVE to drive it like you stole it by power shifting and launching pretty high (like 4K+), so you'll need a good clutch......... BTW, throw the snubber in the trash.......
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
[Re: CokeBottleKid]
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06/28/10 09:39 AM
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I think the 106 was with his 360 not the stroker. Where did you guys run? SD? or Kearney/
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
[Re: Moparnut426]
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The rear of your car looks high (I like a high rear and rake to) so you probably need a set of these http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/reshex.htmlOh cal trac 90/10 shocks trim the bump stops so front end has 5 to 6" of travel (rise from sitting) Unclamp the back of springs last clamp should be maybe 8 to 10" behind axle! Cal trac Bars with bite!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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Ok, been at work.
Car has /6 bars, and 90/10 front shocks. Its got 3200 il ss springs in it now. I have a line lock on it, but Its not hoocked up yet. Dont really want to use it if I dont have to. Car has a centerforce dual friction clutch. Its been good so far, But my new engine might kill it. I ran 106 with the ol 360 in it.
We r running Marion SD, and Kearney. WISH SCRIBNER WAS STILL THERE!!!
Thanks guys. Lots of info here. Soo You guys thing I need to loose my snubber, clamp the front of the springs, un clamp the rear springs, and run more PSI in the tires?
Im gonna need a loop for the drive shaft now also. I think the last time I left at 4K with the old 360, I was gonna leave around the same with the new engine.
Much apreciate the help guys...
Kasey
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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06/28/10 12:36 PM
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You really want the car as level as possible so it'll trnsfer wqeight easier, mines about a 1" rake, not 3+ inches like most mopars i see, they have all kinds of problems hooking, being a stick car, like said, you'll need to "drive it" HARD to see mid 12s, but it'll do it with a 106 mph, your 60fts. should be around 1.78s or there abouts, i'm running 12.6s @ 104-105 with 60fts. consistant on EVERY pass in the 1.82s, My MTs are at 17 lbs. "cold", so there about 19-20 hot, rim width vs. tire size is also important for a nice footprint, a good footprint & you can run more air pressure, i'm on 7" rims with a 255/60/15, so i have to be careful not to exceed 19 lbs. cold, it won't hook, i've also stated running a snubber for trial basis, its about 1/2" from the floor, I also installed CE shocks up front, beleive it or not, my 60fts haven't changed, 1.82s is where there at in the heat, my best was a 1.79 in early may, i've also install clamps in the front of my rear springs, installed longer shocks, un-clamped the rear straps, & installed a thick spring on both sides, car still 60fts. the same , Now i'm sure once i juice it things will change. With the rake on your car, you really need the front to be as loose as possible, & have enough lift to overcome the back, this will help, now are you sure you have enough pinion angle? Look at this video of my car, as you'll see it sits pretty level, notice even on 1.82 60fts. it doesn't transfer a hole lot, this track is tranction limited on some nights do to its prep, i do on accasion squak 2nd., but i'm still very consistant on the 60fts. & that whats important. web page
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I love rowing gears, Always have, but I dont think thats my issue. Id like someday to build a decent 904 for it, but then I hate to de-convert my 4 Speed car. I spent a lot of time and effort switching this car to a 4 speed.
Damn straight. Real muscle cars have 3 pedals! Try a good smokey, then leave the line at about 1-2k rpm.
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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hook up that line lock!!!!! you need it for a straight burnout and on the line so you don't roll out of the beam's and waste a pass!!!
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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Well The car doesnt look the same as in my sig, cant remember how to change sig pictures. And the pinion angle is 3 degrees.
Kasey
Not enough, you need a good 6-7 degrees, especially with a stick car.
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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Well The car doesnt look the same as in my sig, cant remember how to change sig pictures. And the pinion angle is 3 degrees.
Kasey
Not enough, you need a good 6-7 degrees, especially with a stick car.
What about a auto??? My SS springs are going in tonight. My new front hangers JUST arrived!!!!
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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IMO, with the new motor you will run mid 12's only if you miss shift AND forget to go to 4 gear. The new motor will run 11's with ease. I agree, more pressure is needed in the drag radials...probably at least 16-18 lbs.
67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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Well The car doesnt look the same as in my sig, cant remember how to change sig pictures. And the pinion angle is 3 degrees.
Kasey
Not enough, you need a good 6-7 degrees, especially with a stick car.
HOLY CRAP!!!
That seems like a LOT of pinion angle, Hows that gonna affect the street driving?
Kasey
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
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06/28/10 05:45 PM
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if your car is a stickshift id be done with those et street radials and put on some bias ply et streets (the DOT slicks they sell)...that should definatly help some...bias ply is the only way to go and hook with a stick car...and the traction on the et street is the same if not better than the radial
IF you are going to do this??? Get QTP's!!!!
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Re: Buddys OLDS ran 12.80,, My car WONT HOOK,
[Re: CokeBottleKid]
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06/28/10 06:15 PM
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106 is aenemic for a stroker with those heads...
You need to do some tuning/check for issues.
is the heads ported? I wouldn't call them great heads either way
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