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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: moparx] #3244761
07/15/24 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by hooziewhatsit
I have a 50A reset-able fuse on mine (I have more available). Though, I've never had it run at full speed long enough to stress it, so shruggy

are you using a PWM unit to control your fan ?
wouldn't one of those units help to prevent the sudden amp spike when the fan is energized ?
beer


Yep, I designed and sell the controller used to control the fan. Though your comment does bring up a feature I somehow never considered confused laugh2 If the ignition is turned on and the engine is hot enough to command for full speed, it currently commands 90% (full speed) immediately. Or, should I command 25% -> 50% -> 75% -> 90% over several seconds, to reduce the inrush. I should hook up my test bench & fan again and do some testing. It could be that the fan is smart enough internally to do that already work

It sounds like the issue at hand is long term amperage draw melting the fuse/holder. Startup current doesn't affect that.


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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: hooziewhatsit] #3244843
07/15/24 09:10 PM
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it depends on the fuse and holder type.
I went with radio amp fuses for continuous draw and melted 2 fuse holders.
not realizing till the 2nd one that it is a design problem with the fuse type.
apparenltly a lot of videos on sustained amp draw for those types

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: hooziewhatsit] #3244870
07/16/24 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hooziewhatsit
Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by hooziewhatsit
I have a 50A reset-able fuse on mine (I have more available). Though, I've never had it run at full speed long enough to stress it, so shruggy

are you using a PWM unit to control your fan ?
wouldn't one of those units help to prevent the sudden amp spike when the fan is energized ?
beer


Yep, I designed and sell the controller used to control the fan. Though your comment does bring up a feature I somehow never considered confused laugh2 If the ignition is turned on and the engine is hot enough to command for full speed, it currently commands 90% (full speed) immediately. Or, should I command 25% -> 50% -> 75% -> 90% over several seconds, to reduce the inrush. I should hook up my test bench & fan again and do some testing. It could be that the fan is smart enough internally to do that already work

It sounds like the issue at hand is long term amperage draw melting the fuse/holder. Startup current doesn't affect that.


Wouldn't any minimal shut off delay also be helpful in reducing the next starting high engine temp situation so fan can start slower because of the lower engine temp?


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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: jcc] #3245117
07/16/24 10:54 PM
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No cheesy fuse holders here now!!

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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: carrman] #3245643
07/18/24 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by carrman
No cheesy fuse holders here now!!


Glad you got it worked out.


Still, what kind of monster have I created? The thread is still chugging along 14 years later.


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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: feets] #3245722
07/19/24 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by feets
Originally Posted by carrman
No cheesy fuse holders here now!!


Glad you got it worked out.


Still, what kind of monster have I created? The thread is still chugging along 14 years later.




just shows the staying power of [very] useful information. bow
beer

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: moparx] #3245836
07/19/24 11:22 PM
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