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i eat those all the time.
reminds me of "Vitamin Flintheart" in the old Dick Tracey comics................

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Hi Mopartians,

Nothing exciting I'm afraid on the 64 VB!
The lower plate is cast as 67, but is deffo an early VB as it has the strange poppet valve thingy-majigy...
The top valve plate is 65 out of a 65 Fury, so someone has been playing 'in the past'?
Anyways the small spring that goes in the POPPET thingy was bust.
What does the POPPET thingy do?
Not seen it on later VB's from 67 onwards.

Thanx in advance for any info.

Jon

ps no PTK (as the owner thought) as there are no feed tubes as per John's wonderful info pics, previous page.

any pictures ?

The "poppet thingy" is probably the front pump check valve circled in red in the pic below, these were only used '62-'65 so I suspect the 67 is actually 61. Again, a pic would help.

The check valve prevents the front pump pressure from bleeding into the rear pump when the rear pump isn't producing pressure (car isn't moving). The rear pump check valve is identical but isn't visible with the VB fully assembled...it sits in the cavity shown in my first pic above.

Nice looking Vb there John!

Many thanx for the reply John, and yes it was 'deffo' a 67 lower 'channel' plate, so I rubbed off the 7 in disgust as it doesn't exist lol...

They stopped making/using them in 66 so why would they cast a 67 lower plate!!!

The poppet valve (as I call it) the one I am speaking about is UNDER the manual valve.(fat wobbly hemi-orange circle)

Obviously not present in 67 upwards VB's and WHAT does it do???
The tiny spring was broken inside the 'P' valve, it also has a rubber ring seal (under a small plate with two screws) and it was able to move up and down freely, oh dear!


( I replaced the broken spring with one I had spare from a PTK, I had upgraded that one before with the black B&M spring in a later Vb)
Clear as mud...

OK, the valve you have circled is the Reverse blocker, it prevents the manual valve from being shifted into Reverse when the car is moving forward above 20 mph. The spring you used as a replacement will probably change the mph a little...just don't push the R button when rolling forward.

A '67 transfer plate won't have the part circled in black below, this area of the plate is the rear pump suction; if the plate is actually a '67, some major changes have been done to that VB. Again, pics............

H John, you are a star!

Someone who knows real clever transmission stuff.

I see from the VB pic that it has a 'fat shaft' manual valve, is that an aftermarket item?

Not a push-button car its a floor shift 65 Fury, with 402 cubes of POLY POWER lol.


The lower channel plate looks much newer than the rest of the valve body.
I would guess that Mother Mother carried on casting that 'larger' style plate into early 67, for spares?
At some time it must of been changed and it got me confused.

Definitely a pre 66 VB and no real dramas lol.

Whilst we are on the VB saga, I often get asked about modded VB's and their downfalls.
I can tell if I take one apart,,, if it has B&M and/or transgo mods and obviously a new 'separator plate'.

But have no idea if its forward or reverse pattern?

Can a stock VB changed 'to the reverse pattern' as a DIY mod, or is it much more complex than that?

Any help greatly apppreciated John.

Best wishes from Limey John

The VB pictured is for pushbuttons, it has a different manual valve and rooster comb than console/column VB's.

Thank you John, for your time to give out free info.

I have a 68 VB that has a B&M separator plate and a small blocker rod behind the top shuttle valve, instead of a spring?
Any ideas why that is a what it does please?

Stay safe and keep well from Limey John

The blocker rod is typical of the B&M "Auto-Manual" VB's and most "plate kits". The purpose of the shuttle valve is to soften the lift-foot 2-3 upshift and the 3-2 kick down shift. Blocking the valve makes both shifts more firm.

Many thanks John, you are a star!

I just replied to another john’s thread about the blocker rod question lol...

The B&M and transgo kits both require the drilling of the separator wall next to the ‘removed’ ball.
Neither kit actually says why?

And the change down ‘at any speed’ option, always makes me laugh!
Sounds like a crazy upgrade...

Limey John