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Re: f/m/j sub frame [Re: Greg55_99] #703223
05/25/10 07:56 AM
05/25/10 07:56 AM
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Care to give any more reasons on the Crown Vic swap? Is the Crown Vic front end a drop out assembly like the F/M/J? Obviously from that photo you have the advantage of rack and pinion and coil springs, but what are the other benefits.

Not trying to slam you, just looking for more information about the pros and cons of the Crown Vic front end. I drove a 2006 Crown Vic last week, and I thought it rode and handled very good, but the steering was VERY light.




As has been stated, the Crown Vic front end is a complete drop out piece. The most critical width is the outside tire to outside tire distance which is 72" with the stock steel Vic Cop car wheels. If you can get that under your fenders, it can be made to work.

Lots of theads on the Ford truck board on how it's done:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/934493-rusty-63s-f100-2004-cv-pi.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/756556-2007-mercury-grand-marquis-suspension-into-a-72-f100.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/716058-buildup-06-crown-vic-front-suspension-into-67-f100.html

It's a real neat piece...

Greg





IMHO most critical dimension is the wheel mount face to wheel mount face, as a lot of rodder guys don't like the super high offset wheels you need with the crown vic front to keep the OT-OT width to 72"...IIRC the wheel mount to wheel mount is ~67", which is 6-7" wider than an F/M/J


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Re: f/m/j sub frame [Re: patrick] #703224
05/25/10 11:37 AM
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Sounds like I need to take some good measurements of the 57 and 59 Plymouths in my shop right now. The 59 especially, since it's motor is out and it's already on jackstands with the wheels off.

That could be an interesting swap into a Forward Look car.


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Re: f/m/j sub frame [Re: Greg55_99] #703225
05/26/10 08:23 AM
05/26/10 08:23 AM
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Actually, the hot ticket these days is the 2004-2010 Ford Crown Victoria front suspension:



Greg




looks intresting, ddint know ford was still building the crown vic


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Re: f/m/j sub frame [Re: 57Plymouth] #703226
05/26/10 08:31 AM
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Care to give any more reasons on the Crown Vic swap? Is the Crown Vic front end a drop out assembly like the F/M/J? Obviously from that photo you have the advantage of rack and pinion and coil springs, but what are the other benefits.

Not trying to slam you, just looking for more information about the pros and cons of the Crown Vic front end. I drove a 2006 Crown Vic last week, and I thought it rode and handled very good, but the steering was VERY light.




ide like to hear about it also,looks like a drop out and not a true sub frame from the pics,but still intresting, tracking width?


1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD)
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
Re: f/m/j sub frame [Re: dynamite] #703227
05/26/10 08:40 AM
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You may only want the K=frame..from the volere..I put it in my 1956 and it was the best think I did to the car..Four bolts and a few hoses and its out ..ALL THE PARTS ARE AVALIBLE..It gives you the disc brakes and p/s,and torsion bars...If you can ,get the whole car..I bought a 1986 Chrysler 5th ave for $ 250.00 with a blown motor and got the steering colume and master cylinder and anything else I could use..Simple install,and drives straight and smooth..




you had to make some sort of sub frame to connect that 5th ave stub too,,


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2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
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