Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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Cool project and I remember the name Goins and Goins from back when I was a kid (14 or so at the time). Must have read it in some Drag Racing magazine, back then that's all I ever bought. Mom thought it was just for the cars, she never saw Linda Vaughns or Jungle Pams pics in them I guess Glad you went with the Mach1 body instead of keeping the Monza body.
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/22/11 11:02 AM
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/22/11 12:48 PM
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Nellie is actually happy that it is being restored. She would be happy if it were raced too. But, it is not every day you come across a car that is this complete and original. With the except of the body and the headers, everything is original as last ran. So updating it would almost be building a new car completely. I really don't need to race it to feel good about it either to be honest. More people in the racing world really want to see it left original than updated and raced too.
Well, I would have lost that bet. Good luck with project.
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/25/11 03:37 AM
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Lucas, You're doing the right thing by keeping the car original. There is no way you could update that chassis to be competitive in todays world of N/FC, you have to run 6.00's just to get qualified and usually 5.70's to win. The whole spirit of the class from the competition side has been ruined by the few that can outspend or out-tune the majority that have built N/FC's just for the dream of having and running one. The same thing happened earlier in the Nostalgia Top Fuel classes and now if you don't have a 78-79 Arrow, Firebird or the like, you don't have much chance of being competitive, so the guys that built the earlier 67-72 bodies are pretty much relegated to match racing or exhibition just to have a place to run. And since NHRA has seen that they can put on a show, they've stepped in with the Heritage Series since they can make money off of them and started slapping big show style rules,(carbon brakes, leahy boxes, etc.)driving a lot of the little guys out, which doesn't make sense, but we all know NHRA has a nasty habit of crapping on the little guys. Enough rant, keep posting and keep us filled in on the progress........
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/25/11 07:58 AM
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That is so awesome. Thanks for sharing Rick, I would love to see it in person someday.
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/25/11 08:39 AM
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Ronnie, I agree with everything you said. Even if I were very wealthy and could run with those guys, I wouldn't do it with this car. I would build a purpose built car. A couple of my friends who are big in the racing world think the right thing to do is to keep it 100% original as much as possible. As I have stated before, the only items not original are the body, which, Donnie Reeves made from an original Fiberglass Limited body and the headers, which are the same make and brand (Cragar). The engine, blower belt, spark plug and wires, tires, safety belt and all the reset of the stuff is just like it was when it was last ran. It would not do any justice to change that stuff out to run it. The car will run, just not down the track! Rick
Jones, Your close enough, that could be possible oneday.
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/25/11 11:36 PM
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the car resided a few blocks from a good friend of mine.. i heard about the car a few times but never actually went and looked at it..
My Friend Milton Mills...said it was once offered to him for $5 grand..but it needed more work than he had the time for .... but he often looked back at it and said.. coulda woulda shoulda..
this was in Marietta area of Georgia...
Looking at what you have now...I think any way you shake it you got a killer car... I love the idea of a vintage flopper..
I just spoke to him the other day..I could ask him about it...is there anything in perticular you need asked?
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/26/11 12:02 PM
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Hi Cheap, I did buy the car in that area from a man named Sam. He bought it from Nellie Goins. She was the original owner and driver of the car. He introduced Nellie and I the day I got the car. Nellie and I have become great friends and she has shared a lot of info with me. I spoke with her two days ago. In addition to Nellie sharing info with me, Kenny Hirata shares info too. He help Nellie and Otis with the car. I have been able to build a complete history of the car, including pictures. The only thing I can't find is the best ET she ran. She can't remember, Kenny doesn't remember either and Otis is gone, I'm sure he would know if he were here. Nellie said she never broken into the 6's with it, but was close. She does remember her speed, which was 216. The ET is about the only pice of the puzzle I am missing at this point to be honest.
Your buddy passed up a great deal. When I got the car it was complete, hemi, lenco, blower and of course the car. Originally I was going to run it. However, over time I changed my mind. I could have parted the car out and made a ton of money on it. But, I made a promise to Nellie that I would restore the car to its original form. To me my word is my honor. Plus, the car is a part of drag racing history. There have been a few negitive people who disagree with this, but that has been less than three people. There is not another African American woman that ever, to this date, owned and drove a AA/FC. When she was driving there were only a hand full of women that drove AA/FC's too. I have received a lot of inquiries about the car and its history. Some from the NHRA Museum Manager, the Harraha's Auto Museum in Reno, NV and a few others too. I have open invitations to display the car at some pretty big racing venues once the restoration complete as well.
If your buddy knows anything at all, that info would be nice to know.
Thanks, Rick
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/26/11 01:38 PM
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As I have stated before, the only items not original are the body, which, Donnie Reeves made from an original Fiberglass Limited body
Donnie is one of, if not the best Nostalgia body builders and really one of the pioneers of the Nostalgia movement, and one of the nicest guys on the planet. This was, I think, the second body he built, this was at the Hot Rod Reunion in '04, was owned by Bob Gibson, who had and probably still has the "Tom and Jerry" Duster, 12 years with the Safety Safari, was with American Wheels when this was taken, now owns and operates former Midstate Dragway in Havana IL.. Donnie built the first body with a Ford 427 cammer, don't know how I didn't get a pic of that, they were parked right next to each other. Can't see it real well but Bob did all of the airbrushed grill and headlights himself.
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Re: Not Mopar, but the engine is, 1971 AA/FC pics
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12/29/11 12:05 AM
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Plus, the car is a part of drag racing history.
Plus, it's nice to get a glimpse at the lil guys (and gals, in Nellie's case) who made up such a huge part of the early '70s F/C scene. There were so many personalities and unique cars/combinations back then, so it's nice to see at least one car preserved/restored to as-raced specs. Factor in the unique aspect of Nellie and Otis and you have a story that will probably never be topped.
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