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4-spd ID #685120
05/01/10 12:23 AM
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Ok, so I'm totally confused now. In referencing this page , I have no idea what tranny I have now. It is a cast iron unit, 23 spline, but it has a 4.8" IBR in it. It has an A-body tail shaft. Also, I had to flip the lever for 1st/2nd gear for it to shift correctly. Based on the referenced page, the 74+ OD units had to have a flipped lever. The numbers stamped on the pad are un-readable because the VIN was stamped right over the top of it. I've tried several things to bring the numbers out, but no go. Any idea WTH I'm dealing with here?


Re: 4-spd ID [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #685121
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Looking at diagrams of how the shift tabs should be, I see they would all be "up" if this was a pre-74 non-od unit. Not only do I have to flip the 3/4 lever so it is "down"...the reverse lever also needs to be in a "down" position for my shifter to work properly. I'm confused...

Re: 4-spd ID [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #685122
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Re: 4-spd ID [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #685123
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That shifter doesn't look like anything I've ever seen come out of a stock Mopar. I'm guessing that you have an A or F body overdrive 4 speed, and it's the shifter on it that requires the levers to be installed that way. The 'normal' Mopar shifter has all 3 levers coming from the same spot on the shifter - that one almost looks like a 3 speed shifter, with just 2 levers coming from it, with a 3rd lever added on for reverse. Possibly it's a stock shifter from another manufacturer, or an aftermarket shifter. The regular 4 speeds and the overdrive 4 speeds use the same shifters, the only difference is that you flip the 3/4 lever upside down on the overdrive units. That one has all the levers flipped upside down compared to how they should be for an overdrive 4 speed. I think if you put a 'normal' Mopar shifter on that, the levers will work in their correct positions, although you will need to get a shorter rod for the reverse lever.


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Re: 4-spd ID [Re: Evil Monkey] #685124
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That shifter doesn't look like anything I've ever seen come out of a stock Mopar. I'm guessing that you have an A or F body overdrive 4 speed, and it's the shifter on it that requires the levers to be installed that way. The 'normal' Mopar shifter has all 3 levers coming from the same spot on the shifter - that one almost looks like a 3 speed shifter, with just 2 levers coming from it, with a 3rd lever added on for reverse. Possibly it's a stock shifter from another manufacturer, or an aftermarket shifter. The regular 4 speeds and the overdrive 4 speeds use the same shifters, the only difference is that you flip the 3/4 lever upside down on the overdrive units. That one has all the levers flipped upside down compared to how they should be for an overdrive 4 speed. I think if you put a 'normal' Mopar shifter on that, the levers will work in their correct positions, although you will need to get a shorter rod for the reverse lever.




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Re: 4-spd ID [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #685125
05/01/10 10:58 AM
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It's most likely a cast iron OD box, it has the newer side cover and large bearing retainer, one of my friends has one in his shop I was checking out- came out of a 74-75 318 Dart as far as he knows, I think they went to aluminum cases around 76 so the later A bodys and F bodys had them. All the SB A body 833's I've seen use the smaller 4.30" bearing retainer.

He got burned too cause it was represented as a 3.09 1st, 1-1 4th 833, right now it serves as a door stop and wheel chock.

Re: 4-spd ID [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #685126
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Looks like a run-of-the-mill A body unit to me, the 4.80" retainer and the number pad make it '68 or later.


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Re: 4-spd ID [Re: John_Kunkel] #685127
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Thanks all -- I've figured it out to be a cast OD with a 4.8" IBR to mate with a Lakewood scatter shield, which I also have. :-)







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