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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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Do they make a throttle body that will flow over 2500cfm?? 
this one from Full Throttle Performance will flow 2500 cfm
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/25/10 04:43 PM
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Hogwash eh? Take a look at this thread.... http://motorsportsvillage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6894&hilit=sv1&start=15Quote:
I have to apologise to everyone for some miss information. We were useing the fuel regulator that was set up on the dyno and the pressure would drop during the pull. Patrick just called and said thats are problem and we have to use his regulator.
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/25/10 04:58 PM
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As is stated above I talked to patrick and he said it is not needed at all. I also stated he said he sells a regulator for E85 and alcohol setups... would one of the "professional" phone listners on here call patrick and see what he tells you 
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/25/10 05:16 PM
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They sell for $1150 each + extras  I was just reading on YB that the PRO SYSTEMS fuel regulator is needed with this carb    http://yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=203896&highlight=pro+systems+carbs&page=6
I need to set myself straight   Just got off the phone with Pat at Pro Systems,the real deal is gas carbs can use your exsisting pump & regulator without a problem.Alky set ups need to use the belt driven pump that increases pressure/volume with increased RPM,if not using the belt driven F/PUMP,a different style regulator is needed and that is what Pro Systems was offering.Pat also told me that the company has doubled in size due to the crazy demand for this product Also discussed was that this carb is a standard flange with duel bolt patterns therefore not considered a "DOMINATOR"   These should be able to be used in NSS racing,a pair of these carbs would really wake those cars up bigtime!!!       
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/25/10 05:40 PM
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so there is no issue with that one/single huge throttle blade acting like a shovel and putting more air/fuel to the front side of the motor as it enters the plenum? i guess since the toilets work this way they have overcome this? just seems like it spoons to the front 4 cyl. cheapst
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/25/10 07:26 PM
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The SV1 utilizes a single venturi with special port layouts and very high cfm ratings that were previously unattainable. Due to its high amounts of signal and shift recovery the SV1 uses 4150 style 2 circuit metering blocks and gaskets. There is no intermediate circuit required to assist in throttle response and shift recovery (like most 1050 cfm and larger four barrels prefer and require). The unique quadrant tuneable SV1 booster design (which allows your main jetting to effect each quadrant or corner of the carburetor) has an exceptionally low lift point and the throttle shaft and blade does not impede signal generation, so the SV1 offers previously unattainable levels of low speed and shift recovery signal. As you roll into the throttle on other designs, the throttle blade is in the way of the booster until it gets to wide open throttle. On the SV1, the booster begins receiving signal the moment the blade even begins to open. This offers faster priming of the metering system so the SV1 will jump right up on even the tightest converters. It also gives the SV1 incredibly smooth and very nice driveability. You will be impressed by how nice the design drives and idles. The amazing idle quality is simply a result of a better layout. You see on four barrel designs, the backside of the blade only allows in "clean air". You really only have an opening at the front and rear of the blades to atomize the idle fuel, the sides of the blades (inline with the shaft), stay snug to the venturi at all times, acting like a divider. But there is another divider. On all four barrel designs, zero or very little fuel can make it to the opposite side of the blade as the throttle shaft acts like a drip rail and (divides) cuts the fuel off from traveling to this "clean air" side. So on four barrel carburetors, only the outside edge of the blade gets fuel. The inside edge towards the center of the body gets no fuel and only passes (or mostly passes) clean air into the engine. So half of the air entering the engine is improperly lean. To compensate, on four barrel carburetors, the fuel port side of the blade must be kept improperly rich to get a good "average". Clean air is the enemy in an engine as it typically stays clean as it easily travels through the intake in the direction of any cylinder or cylinders it wishes to feed. On the SV1 the front half AND the rear half of the blade are exposed to fuel delivery ports so there are no "clean air" openings available to bypass these idle fuel ports (so no stray "clean air" streams can occur). On the SV1, every place where air comes into the engine, offers mixture screw controllable atomized fuel (it's also unblocked as there is no throttle shaft divider keeping half of the blade from access to a fuel port). This idle fuel is then drawn around the perimeter of the very large blade and is atomized over this very large surface area and that really improves the idle quality and evens up the distribution. This much improved idle quality/atomization configuration is very important to Nitrous applications as it keeps your cold nitrous plugs from fouling out, so they stay clean and ready to go. It's great for street and bracket racing/throttle stop cars too. Another advantage to the single blade design is also obvious. Four barrel carburetor designs require the throttle shaft and blade to be located directly under the center of the booster. This layout impedes the boosters ability to quickly respond to air speed changes. The SV1 uses a booster design that does not rely on a signal generating center (like an annular, aerosol or dog leg booster). So on the SV1, the throttle blade and shaft location are no longer a factor. On the SV1, the whole booster length generates signal and because the blade and shaft are no longer a "signal blocker", when air speed suddenly changes (during a shift or the engagement of nitrous) you get more instant response to these changes and faster shift recovery time as a result. This reduces lean spikes. So you can stand on your nitrous tune up even harder without worry of going lean on the shifts or during nitrous engagement and encountering a loaded nitrous backfire. This also makes the carburetor very consistent for bracket racing and throttle stop type applications as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From the Prosystems web site
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/25/10 09:48 PM
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That throttle body looks like a nice piece,but a computer to go with it is how much??$800,,,,,,$1000 plus this.?? NEW!! AVAILABLE NOW!! 2500 CFM TWO BARREL! TPS, IAC and Progressive Linkage Larger IAC passage for easier cranking and better idle control Perfect for big inch street or strip! Perfect for 572 c.i. and bigger. You'll love it! $775.00
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/25/10 10:20 PM
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Tip in and part throttle are supposed to be outstanding.
It's funny how everyone keeps bringing up throttle response on that carb.......The main reason it's better is because when you move the throttle cable, say a 1/4", there's a LOT more throttle blade open than on a regular carb.......I can't imagine that from idle to WOT it can have better "throttle response" than a regular Dominator........  
Now just throw in some split fire plugs, Castrol Syntec, and a Voodoo cam, and you guys will really pick up a BUNCH of ET........ 
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/26/10 12:03 AM
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Tip in and part throttle are supposed to be outstanding.
It's funny how everyone keeps bringing up throttle response on that carb.......The main reason it's better is because when you move the throttle cable, say a 1/4", there's a LOT more throttle blade open than on a regular carb.......I can't imagine that from idle to WOT it can have better "throttle response" than a regular Dominator........
Now just throw in some split fire plugs, Castrol Syntec, and a Voodoo cam, and you guys will really pick up a BUNCH of ET........
Wayne
But all carbs require an accelerator pump to solve that problem right? I hear what you're saying on trick of the week stuff, I guess we'll have to wait on somebody to drive this thing on the street.
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/26/10 01:36 PM
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Tip in and part throttle are supposed to be outstanding.
It's funny how everyone keeps bringing up throttle response on that carb.......The main reason it's better is because when you move the throttle cable, say a 1/4", there's a LOT more throttle blade open than on a regular carb.......I can't imagine that from idle to WOT it can have better "throttle response" than a regular Dominator........
Now just throw in some split fire plugs, Castrol Syntec, and a Voodoo cam, and you guys will really pick up a BUNCH of ET........
Wayne
Looks like you will need to add a supplement to your video
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/26/10 08:19 PM
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Tip in and part throttle are supposed to be outstanding.
It's funny how everyone keeps bringing up throttle response on that carb.......The main reason it's better is because when you move the throttle cable, say a 1/4", there's a LOT more throttle blade open than on a regular carb.......I can't imagine that from idle to WOT it can have better "throttle response" than a regular Dominator........
Now just throw in some split fire plugs, Castrol Syntec, and a Voodoo cam, and you guys will really pick up a BUNCH of ET........
Wayne
Looks like you will need to add a supplement to your video
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/27/10 08:40 AM
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Tip in and part throttle are supposed to be outstanding.
It's funny how everyone keeps bringing up throttle response on that carb.......The main reason it's better is because when you move the throttle cable, say a 1/4", there's a LOT more throttle blade open than on a regular carb.......I can't imagine that from idle to WOT it can have better "throttle response" than a regular Dominator........
Now just throw in some split fire plugs, Castrol Syntec, and a Voodoo cam, and you guys will really pick up a BUNCH of ET........
Wayne
Looks like you will need to add a supplement to your video
Yeah, no kidding!!! and I could go into why having 2,500CFM is way too much for a 9.90 car, but the know-it-all's don't buy my video any way.....
I should also start a few threads titled "Split Fire Plugs,,,A WORK OF ART", "Castrol Syntec,,,A WORK OF ART", "Voodoo cams,,,A WORK OF ART" and "Rhoads Lifters,,,A WORK OF ART".......
I could even post pics of myself holding up those products covering half of my face.......
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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Tip in and part throttle are supposed to be outstanding.
It's funny how everyone keeps bringing up throttle response on that carb.......The main reason it's better is because when you move the throttle cable, say a 1/4", there's a LOT more throttle blade open than on a regular carb.......I can't imagine that from idle to WOT it can have better "throttle response" than a regular Dominator........
Now just throw in some split fire plugs, Castrol Syntec, and a Voodoo cam, and you guys will really pick up a BUNCH of ET........
Wayne
Looks like you will need to add a supplement to your video
Yeah, no kidding!!! and I could go into why having two carbs that flow over 2000CFM is way too much for a high 9 second car, but the know-it-all's don't buy my video any way.....
I should also start a few threads titled "Split Fire Plugs,,,A WORK OF ART", "Castrol Syntec,,,A WORK OF ART", and "Voodoo cams,,,A WORK OF ART".......
I could even post pics of myself holding up those products coving half of my face.......
he is fallowing my bad example on big carbs[1250cfm each].i did it to help the blower be more efficient/less restrictive yada yada it is what i wanted to do. 
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/27/10 06:30 PM
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Tip in and part throttle are supposed to be outstanding.
It's funny how everyone keeps bringing up throttle response on that carb.......The main reason it's better is because when you move the throttle cable, say a 1/4", there's a LOT more throttle blade open than on a regular carb.......I can't imagine that from idle to WOT it can have better "throttle response" than a regular Dominator........
Now just throw in some split fire plugs, Castrol Syntec, and a Voodoo cam, and you guys will really pick up a BUNCH of ET........
Wayne
Looks like you will need to add a supplement to your video
Yeah, no kidding!!! and I could go into why having two carbs that flow over 2000CFM is way too much for a high 9 second car, but the know-it-all's don't buy my video any way.....
I should also start a few threads titled "Split Fire Plugs,,,A WORK OF ART", "Castrol Syntec,,,A WORK OF ART", and "Voodoo cams,,,A WORK OF ART".......
I could even post pics of myself holding up those products coving half of my face.......
he is fallowing my bad example on big carbs[1250cfm each].i did it to help the blower be more efficient/less restrictive yada yada it is what i wanted to do.
1250's too big for you Mike??? I highly doubt it.Bet it woke that sucker right up,I guess 2 SV1's will be way too much CFM for my conservitive build    
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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03/27/10 06:51 PM
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"Bet it woke that sucker right up"
it sure did and it is much happier.
I just spoke with Joe Nova,he bolted the SV1 on his car,,,,,,couldn't wait for me.Set the idle air screws,the floats were right on  .The old carb liked an 1100 rpm idle.The SV1 idles at 800 rpm.Rise time real quick,took it for a blast.There is a new problem.The 18 x 33's won't stay stuck  gunna have to try the slicks  
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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It actually snowed this past Saturday and Sunday, but the track was open today for TNT.....
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I just spoke with Joe Nova,he bolted the SV1 on his car,,,,,,couldn't wait for me.Set the idle air screws,the floats were right on .The old carb liked an 1100 rpm idle.The SV1 idles at 800 rpm.Rise time real quick,took it for a blast.There is a new problem.The 18 x 33's won't stay stuck gunna have to try the slicks
If it idles at 800 now and was at 1,100 before, that just says he had the wrong carb before and/or didn't know how to tune the one he had.....
I'm not saying it's a bad piece, and it may be better out of the box for the average Joe that doesn't understand carbs, but to say it's got better throttle response than a tuned Dominator is stretching it.....
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....I guess 2 SV1's will be way too much CFM for my conservitive build
I agree.....9.90's out of a blown Hemi is pretty conservative.......
Wayne
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS SV1,,,A WORK OF ART
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Wayne, Do you sell and recommend "Motor Honey" as well ? Maybe you have some " ring restore" in a can? How ya doin out there P-Daddy?
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