Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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I can't think of anything that a person would describe as a pin in these things.
There is a hole in the trans housing that is in alignment with the speedo gear, or at least that is what it looks like.....
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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05/27/08 09:24 PM
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ANOTHER case where a Factory Service Manual would come in handy! (Or a fellow moparts user who is willing to learn some new software to bring you a picture,)
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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Whoops, that pic and text is from the TorqueFlite section, but a quick look at the 833 section shows a different picture, but about the same text. I got a bum left leg out of the Navy, and when I think transmission, it always comes out TorqueFlite. Like I said at the top of my last post.....Factory Service Manual.
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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The other picture!
There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed.
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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The other picture!
There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed.
Listen......There is no pin. the pics posted show everything. The gear is held in place by the adaptor. The gear can only go so deep into the tailshaft housing as its machined.
Post pictures of what you are looking at....
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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The other picture!
There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed.
Ok, so what does the end opposite the speedo housing go to. So you are saying it floats loose? Then it is only supported by the housing its self. So then is there a thrust button in the trans that keeps the gear from floating front to back?
Listen......There is no pin. the pics posted show everything. The gear is held in place by the adaptor. The gear can only go so deep into the tailshaft housing as its machined.
Post pictures of what you are looking at....
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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The other picture!
There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed.
Listen......There is no pin. the pics posted show everything. The gear is held in place by the adaptor. The gear can only go so deep into the tailshaft housing as its machined.
Post pictures of what you are looking at....
Ok, so what does the end opposite the speedo housing go to. So you are saying it floats loose? Then it is only supported by the housing its self. So then is there a thrust button in the trans that keeps the gear from floating front to back?
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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Ok, so what does the end opposite the speedo housing go to. So you are saying it floats loose? Then it is only supported by the housing its self. So then is there a thrust button in the trans that keeps the gear from floating front to back?
No thrust button. Nothing period. Just put it togeather.
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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THERE IS NO PIN. Quit trying to make a ten minute job into a project.
I'm not trying to.
Look guys, I'm a mechanical engineer that worked in automotive for 15 years.
Ok get your slams out of the way....
Now that said, if there is not a thrust button to control the end play on the gear, and no support on both ends of a driven gear, it's a pretty crappy design. Period.
No wonder they make one sacrificial........... ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/musik010.gif)
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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It just amazing that they last 20-30 years considering how badly you say the are designed.
Some do, aaannnnnddd some don't.
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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THERE IS NO PIN. Quit trying to make a ten minute job into a project.
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I'm not trying to.
Could of fooled me. The design worked very well. You need not reinvent it.
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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THERE IS NO PIN. Quit trying to make a ten minute job into a project.
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I'm not trying to.
Could of fooled me. The design worked very well. You need not reinvent it.
Yep, I guess it did, But they don't use that anymore. Always room for improvement.
I think points are obsolete now too aren't they?
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Re: speedo gear alignment pin??
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Here's what the thrust surface looks like in a 727, same for 833:
Yep, that's exactly correct. Thank you for actually providing a picture. Much appreciated. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif)
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