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speedo gear alignment pin?? #64767 05/27/08 07:14 PM 05/27/08 07:14 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north! D Dart 340 OP moparts member
Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Went to change gears in my 833 for the speedo and see that I don't have a pin for aligning the gear in the back. Is this required or will it function with out it? Seems like over time the plastic would get hot and melt anyway? If not, would a dowel pin work or was it a roll pin?????

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64768 05/27/08 07:55 PM 05/27/08 07:55 PM
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Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Um anyone, like to put this back together tonight.........

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64769 05/27/08 07:57 PM 05/27/08 07:57 PM
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NITROUSN I Live Here N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,427 UPPER MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE COUN...	There is no pin.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: NITROUSN] #64770 05/27/08 08:21 PM 05/27/08 08:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,845 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,845 Kirkland, Washington	I can't think of anything that a person would describe as a pin in these things.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #64771 05/27/08 08:28 PM 05/27/08 08:28 PM
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Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Quote: I can't think of anything that a person would describe as a pin in these things. There is a hole in the trans housing that is in alignment with the speedo gear, or at least that is what it looks like.....

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64772 05/27/08 08:36 PM 05/27/08 08:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,845 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,845 Kirkland, Washington	There is a 5/16 bolt hole for the wishbone shaped hold down for the gear..... But I don't think that what you mean...

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64773 05/27/08 09:24 PM 05/27/08 09:24 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	ANOTHER case where a Factory Service Manual would come in handy! (Or a fellow moparts user who is willing to learn some new software to bring you a picture,) 4456038-T-FliteSpeedoPinion.jpg (39 downloads)

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? #64774 05/27/08 09:38 PM 05/27/08 09:38 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Whoops, that pic and text is from the TorqueFlite section, but a quick look at the 833 section shows a different picture, but about the same text. I got a bum left leg out of the Navy, and when I think transmission, it always comes out TorqueFlite. Like I said at the top of my last post.....Factory Service Manual.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? #64775 05/27/08 09:45 PM 05/27/08 09:45 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	The other picture! 4456120-T-FliteSpeedoPinionA.jpg (47 downloads)

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? #64776 05/27/08 10:51 PM 05/27/08 10:51 PM
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Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Quote: The other picture! There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64777 05/27/08 11:06 PM 05/27/08 11:06 PM
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NITROUSN I Live Here N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,427 UPPER MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE COUN...	Quote: Quote: The other picture! There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed. Listen......There is no pin. the pics posted show everything. The gear is held in place by the adaptor. The gear can only go so deep into the tailshaft housing as its machined. Post pictures of what you are looking at....

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: NITROUSN] #64778 05/28/08 12:23 AM 05/28/08 12:23 AM
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In_The_Pink master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI	No pin. Just insert the pinion gear into the adapter housing, insert housing into trans tailshaft, rotate housing until the tooth range of your gear is down at the 6 o'clock position. Install retaining clip and bolt, then tighten bolt.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: NITROUSN] #64779 05/28/08 10:01 AM 05/28/08 10:01 AM
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Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Quote: Quote: Quote: The other picture! There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed. Ok, so what does the end opposite the speedo housing go to. So you are saying it floats loose? Then it is only supported by the housing its self. So then is there a thrust button in the trans that keeps the gear from floating front to back? Listen......There is no pin. the pics posted show everything. The gear is held in place by the adaptor. The gear can only go so deep into the tailshaft housing as its machined. Post pictures of what you are looking at....

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64780 05/28/08 10:02 AM 05/28/08 10:02 AM
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Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: The other picture! There is a hole inside the transmission that looks like it aligns with the plastic part of the gear which also has a hole in it. I was thinking it was a support pin which might hold the rear of the gear opposite the front which the speedo cable goes into. You cannot see the hole unless the gear is removed. Listen......There is no pin. the pics posted show everything. The gear is held in place by the adaptor. The gear can only go so deep into the tailshaft housing as its machined. Post pictures of what you are looking at.... Ok, so what does the end opposite the speedo housing go to. So you are saying it floats loose? Then it is only supported by the housing its self. So then is there a thrust button in the trans that keeps the gear from floating front to back?

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64781 05/28/08 10:18 AM 05/28/08 10:18 AM
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stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,991 Grand Prairie,Texas	THERE IS NO PIN. Quit trying to make a ten minute job into a project.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64782 05/28/08 10:19 AM 05/28/08 10:19 AM
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NITROUSN I Live Here N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,427 UPPER MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE COUN...	Quote: Ok, so what does the end opposite the speedo housing go to. So you are saying it floats loose? Then it is only supported by the housing its self. So then is there a thrust button in the trans that keeps the gear from floating front to back? No thrust button. Nothing period. Just put it togeather.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: stumpy] #64783 05/28/08 10:28 AM 05/28/08 10:28 AM
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Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Quote: THERE IS NO PIN. Quit trying to make a ten minute job into a project. I'm not trying to. Look guys, I'm a mechanical engineer that worked in automotive for 15 years. Ok get your slams out of the way.... Now that said, if there is not a thrust button to control the end play on the gear, and no support on both ends of a driven gear, it's a pretty crappy design. Period. No wonder they make one sacrificial...........

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64784 05/28/08 10:31 AM 05/28/08 10:31 AM
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stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,991 Grand Prairie,Texas	It just amazing that they last 20-30 years considering how badly you say the are designed.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: Dart 340] #64785 05/28/08 10:32 AM 05/28/08 10:32 AM
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buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	It rests against machined area of trans, that you should see when the gear and housing are removed.

Re: speedo gear alignment pin?? [Re: stumpy] #64786 05/28/08 10:33 AM 05/28/08 10:33 AM
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Dart 340 OP moparts member D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,195 Snowing in the north!	Quote: It just amazing that they last 20-30 years considering how badly you say the are designed. Some do, aaannnnnddd some don't.

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