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there was a guy named Anatol out of Vineland, NJ who was selling a B5 blue 71 hemi Challenger with a TA Hood,years ago . i'm sure it was coded for N96 [/quote



The car did have the N94 air cleaner on it in 1983 or 84 when I traded the second owner of that car an NOS stock air cleaner for his N94 Hemi air cleaner. I needed it to put on top of the 65 race Hemi that I was running in my black A12 Runner. I found the air cleaner completely by coincidence at an NHOA meet in York, PA within one month after getting the Hemi running in my A12. The A12 hood opening let you see the whole top of the motor and it was fate that I found that air cleaner for my car. I showed it with the Hemi in it for about 6 years from The Nats to Englishtown, year in year out. The air cleaner made the Hemi look like right at home in the Road Runner with that A12 hood! When I found the air cleaner, Walt Downer showed up just as we were sealing the deal and tried to talk the guy out of going thru with it. The guy (from the Upstate NY area)was very straight and said a deal was a deal. He would not have traded me unless I could get an expert to interpret his fender tag to prove it was not an N94 cold air hood car. He was very happy to get the correct air cleaner for his car. Walt Downer ended up with the car before Anatole got it. Walt Downer had added a few non original things on the car including the wheel lip moldings. At one point, Downer tried to get the air cleaner back from me after I got the 440-6 back in my car. I was willing to trade him for a pair of Hemi exhaust manifolds. We made a deal over the phone. He showed up with the manifolds but he backed out because a friend of his convinced him the manifolds were worth more than the N94 air cleaner. Needless to say, I did not have any good experiences in trying to deal with Downer...I ended up selling it to a friend of Bill Drake's for $750 in the early 90's. It went on a pink E-body racing in upstate NY. Here's what it looked like in my black A12. You can see the depression in the back of the seal where the steel hood from the blue Challenger was biting into it. It might have been put on it at the factory by accident? No one knows for sure why it was on that Challenger?

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I believe the B5 Blue Six Pack Challenger was run in Pure Stock Drags with a T/A hood & air cleaner.

Years ago I ran a 440 Six Pack in my 1969 Hemi RR... air cleaner matched the Air Grabber hood fine. I believe the basic interfaces were always maintained if possible...

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The red T/A hooded hemi Challenger is it the same Challenger that was owned by a member on Moparts and one other person that was an NHOA member. Is this the same car that was to be involved with a grudge match with a Buick.

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The FE5 N94 Hemi Challenger was bought from Lee H. out of Lubbock, Texas by NHOA member Glenn H. who sold it to NHOA member Mark A. In the late 1980s Mark sold the car to someone from Florida (IIRC), and later Moparts member Patrick F. ended up with the car. I do not know anything that relates to a grudge match with a Buick...

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***** 383 4bbl. eng. - #3577 458

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I have one of these air cleaners for my car, unfortunately I believe it is the 340 unit. Anybody know of any way to ID the parts or part numbers?

The HEMI N94 air cleaner may be EXPENSIVE, but if you want to talk RARE - find a single 4bbl N94 air cleaner ....... or even a picture "I dare you"!!

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***** 340 4bbl. eng. - #3577 457
***** 383 4bbl. eng. - #3577 458

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I have one of these air cleaners for my car, unfortunately I believe it is the 340 unit. Anybody know of any way to ID the parts or part numbers?

The HEMI N94 air cleaner may be EXPENSIVE, but if you want to talk RARE - find a single 4bbl N94 air cleaner ....... or even a picture "I dare you"!!

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I sold Galen that 340 air cleaner at Spring Fling some years ago. It came off my 340 Challenger.

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The HEMI N94 air cleaner may be EXPENSIVE, but if you want to talk RARE - find a single 4bbl N94 air cleaner....... or even a picture " I dare you"!!

OK I'll bite...maybe

I cant say for sure if this ever made it into production which I doubt, but I believe initially this was the intended design for the 4bbl N94.
There was one of these, and only one, in the 'hobby shop' at Fram where they did testing.
Basically a 4 bbl shaker base with the TA outer ring, same way they built a 6pak and Hemi TA base.
Since so few of these 4bbl cars were built, Hamtramk likely never got their hands on it to try it on a 4bbl TA hood equipped Challenger to see if the alignment with hood closure would seal and work. The two 4bbl numbers 3577457, 3577458 fall in line with the 6 pak and Hemi numbered TA bases but we all know how part numbers in the books can be misleading.
In all probability the aircleaner Dan has is likely what Chrysler decided to go with.
I recall Ken Papa had one like Dan years ago at his dealership also unless it is the same one.

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I believe the B5 Blue Six Pack Challenger was run in Pure Stock Drags with a T/A hood & air cleaner.

Years ago I ran a 440 Six Pack in my 1969 Hemi RR... air cleaner matched the Air Grabber hood fine. I believe the basic interfaces were always maintained if possible...

XS

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I think the 69 440-6 carb studs were too long and would dent the 69 Rrunner steel hood. I don't think the A12 carb set and air cleaner setup would clear? If you had a 70 carb setup, the studs may have cleared?

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The HEMI N94 air cleaner may be EXPENSIVE, but if you want to talk RARE - find a single 4bbl N94 air cleaner....... or even a picture " I dare you"!!

OK I'll bite...maybe

I cant say for sure if this ever made it into production which I doubt, but I believe initially this was the intended design for the 4bbl N94.
There was one of these, and only one, in the 'hobby shop' at Fram where they did testing.
Basically a 4 bbl shaker base with the TA outer ring, same way they built a 6pak and Hemi TA base.
Since so few of these 4bbl cars were built, Hamtramk likely never got their hands on it to try it on a 4bbl TA hood equipped Challenger to see if the alignment with hood closure would seal and work. The two 4bbl numbers 3577457, 3577458 fall in line with the 6 pak and Hemi numbered TA bases but we all know how part numbers in the books can be misleading.
In all probability the aircleaner Dan has is likely what Chrysler decided to go with.
I recall Ken Papa had one like Dan years ago at his dealership also unless it is the same one.

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I saw a 4 barrel T/A - AAR air cleaner,that looked just like that one at Carlsile,about two years ago. The seller was calling it the prototype air cleaner for what was to be the production air cleaner for the 4 barrel equipped 71 Challenger T/A. If thats the one you are discussing here. The same vendor had a complete 1969 383 Cuda engine,as you probably know the drivers side motor mount is completely different on those blocks for big block a body cars.

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Ben Snobar had a 4bbl T/A air cleaner like the one pictured above at Carlisle ~5years ago.
Same one? Reproduction?

The oval air cleaner will not clear the A/C compressor, so maybe the one I have is as correct as I'll get?
Galen said the only other one he's seen was at Papa Dodge.

Jack, got any pics?

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