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'70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? #610950
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What are the factory engine colors for a '70 Plymouth Satellite equipped with the Commando 383 2-bbl or with the Super Commando 383 4-bbl engine?

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: In_The_Pink] #610951
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I beleive it would be mopar blue for both.

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70 383 2 barrel = Blue
70 383 4 barrel with a/c = blue
70 383 4 barrel non a/c = orange


70 Road Runner 383-4 4 speed FJ5 & black guts
70 Charger R/T 440-4 4 speed FJ5 & white guts
Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: 70gtx440dana] #610953
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Does the car have a b'cast sheet?

Holley 4bbl carb = orange
Carter 4bbl carb = blue

& was "SUPER COMMANDO 383" actually used in '70?

Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: 6bblgt] #610954
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Does the car have a b'cast sheet?


'fraid not, but it does have an instruction sheet.

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was "SUPER COMMANDO 383" actually used in '70?




I honestly have no idea, I was going by this:


Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: In_The_Pink] #610955
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i have a -70 cuda with ac and 4 speed,the engine is orange with a holley 4367.the air cleaner says super commando 383,in orange.N-code.

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Where does the car in question fall optionwise?

1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange

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I thought hemi orange was only used on High Performence motors? Sat with 383 would not be the high performence model. I had a 70 Coronet with 383 all orignal car and motor was blue.

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Where does the car in question fall optionwise?

1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange




It has a 4-speed manual trans, which means it can only be the 330-horse, 4-bbl 383 since it's in a Satellite?:




I guess that would make it orange?

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Where does the car in question fall optionwise?

1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange




It has a 4-speed manual trans, which means it can only be the 330-horse, 4-bbl 383 since it's in a Satellite?:


I guess that would make it orange?




Four speed Satellites had the same engine assembly as the RR so it would be the 335 horse orange.


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Re: '70 Satellite w/383 Engine- Correct Engine Color? [Re: In_The_Pink] #610960
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It will be ORANGE & the original engine was "HP" (335hp) even though it wasn't spelled out that way in the paperwork shown, RARE insurance beater!

Here's a '70 Sport Satellite b'cast sheet-
383 4bbl 4-spd w/3.23 open rear axle

ENG - 087 - same as similar equipped Road Runner
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CARB - 36 - Holley 4bbl #3418 536 - LIST R4367A

We need more details and pics of the car - 2 door hardtop/convertible? Color combo?

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My original/untouched '70 Satellite 383 4-bbl A/T car had a turquoise motor & AVS carb. The orange vs. turquoise '70 383 4-bbl deal has been debated here before, and IIRC the orange ones are an anomaly. As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX. '69 RR 383s with A/C were turquoise 330-horse motors, not the 335, had one. Possibly this changed for '70, but not on mine. All the cars I'm referring to were St.Louis built.
The actual blue color came later with the low-compression "smog" motors.

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The actual blue color came later with the low-compression "smog" motors.




My friends early build 70 Charger 500 383-2 bbl,auto w/A.C. this is an untouched original car,has a blue painted engine. John.


1970 Dodge Charger R/T S.E. 1969 Dodge Dart GTS 440 M-Code 1970 Dodge Charger 500 383/4-speed w/A.C.
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I'd like to see a picture of that, as well as the SPD. It's #s matching?

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Some dirty old cooked paint '70 big blocks look turquoise but were originally blue.

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Some dirty old cooked paint '70 big blocks look turquoise but were originally blue.



I agree. 1969 was the last year turquoise was used

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that just strikes me as absolutely hilarious, "no speed control" on the hemi option!

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Four speed Satellites had the same engine assembly as the RR so it would be the 335 horse orange.




When I bought my car in '82 I had to rebuild the engine and I am positive it had never been rebuilt. It is a 4 speed HP stamped block, windage tray, Holley carb and orange. Here is a pic of one of 3 other 4 speed Sport Satellites that I know of and although it appears to have been either touched up or repainted it is an A/C 4 speed in orange. I don't know which carb.

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Where does the car in question fall optionwise?

1970 Satellite w/383 4bbl:
auto with A/C - blue
auto without axle package - blue
auto with A/C & "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A36" (3.55s) - ??
auto with "A31" (3.91s) - orange
3-speed - orange
4-speed - orange




It has a 4-speed manual trans, which means it can only be the 330-horse, 4-bbl 383 since it's in a Satellite?:




I guess that would make it orange?




So, According to this you could get the 330hp engine in a Belvedere? That rocks!

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As previously stated, orange 383s & 440s would signal RR/GTX.




I disagree; check out Dan's BS shown above your post. I think 383 4bbl non-A/C, 4 spd cars got the 335hp (E87) motor despite Chrysler advertising to the contrary.

....at least that's my recollection based on all the proof brought forward last time.


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