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Cut to length Pushrods #609771
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Who has purchased the cut to length pushrods?
I need to buy some pushrods and am considering buying a set of these and cutting them down. Does anybody have any hints or tips before i cut them all too short and have to buy another set?

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RacerGofKGB] #609772
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Measure twice - cut once.
I got mine from Hughes.

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: MoparforLife] #609773
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Is this for a B engine or an RB?

I have a set for sale on the fore sale thread here that go in a B engine..

Stock length but with a ball and cup for adjustables.

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: redmist] #609774
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iirc you want the right length pushrod, for the pushrod and adj screw to be a straight line (viewed from the front of the eng) w (1) or (2) threads showing (just the bare minimum so the cup doesn't hit the rocker anywhere in the travel range) when your particular cam is @ either 40 or 50 or 60% (I forget which & depends on if SB or BB not on the cam) of max lift w the head mocked up on the deck w the intended thickness of head gasket. You would fab/borrow/buy an adjustable pushrod so you could adj it's length until the imaginary line is straight. this is tied into the wipe pattern from the pedestal height/rocker ratio so definitely check further. EDIT it's 60% for SB (50% BB) and that's 60% (OF WHAT THE VALVE SEES RATHER THAN 60% OF CAM LOBE LIFT) so the rocker ratio (1.5 or 1.6) is being taken into acct)

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Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RacerGofKGB] #609775
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I cut mine twice and they were still too short.

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Why not just buy ones that are the right length and be done with it?

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RacerGofKGB] #609777
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It’s been a while but I have mine made to my specs. I bought a adjustable pushrod to find the ideal length then measured and bought the pushrods. Look up smithbros. pushrods. they have a guide for determining the right length pushrod.


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Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: MNobody] #609778
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Why not just buy ones that are the right length and be done with it?




Because there is no such thing if you have a milled deck, milled heads then combined with a large assortment of head gasket thickness choices.

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #609779
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Why not just buy ones that are the right length and be done with it?




Because there is no such thing if you have a milled deck, milled heads then combined with a large assortment of head gasket thickness choices.


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Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RacerGofKGB] #609780
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While by no means a high horse power application, my 360 has adjustable pushrods. So far, so good.. and I wind it up pretty tight from time to time.
Just a thought...


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Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: BossRide] #609781
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I already bought an adjustable pushrod, so i will be able to mock one up. I was planning on setting it up in a few different places on each side and getting an average.

" Why dont i just buy them already cut to length?" I thought this route may be a little less expensive(although more time consuming). And i would feel far superior to all of my friends who have never made their own pushrods.

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RacerGofKGB] #609782
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. And i would feel far superior to all of my friends who have never made their own pushrods.


Absolutely!, priceless! that's why I'm fabbin a set of headers. This is from Hughes', when you get the straight line AND if the wipe pattern is good,(& no interference anywhere) your set. I'd suggest using a hyd lifter w the cup epoxied shut (to duplicate what you are running & I'm assuming hyd lifters) and I have a Q for you would it make sense to epoxy the cups .030" down to match where they will be?? (assuming .030" preload is a good figure). EDIT hughes states that the wipe pattern is more important than an exact straight line and no interference anywhere over the entire travel range is (obviously) #1

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Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RapidRobert] #609783
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Take your time to get one rod dead right. Then use it to mark and measure all the rest.

Cut 1mm or so too long and file down to size making sure you are square. Clean the edges and put a very slight 45 degree angle on the inside edge to help you get the cup started.

Don't hammer the cup on and bend the rod.

1-2 threads showing under the rocker is ideal. Double check there is no contact between the cup and rocker at any point of its travel.


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Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: Roppa440] #609784
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Can you pull the cup back off once you have pressed it onto the rod?

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RacerGofKGB] #609785
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You can cut them a bit longer, and grind the cut end down to the size you need before installing the end.
When you grind the end, just chuck the pushrod in a drill and spin the pushrod while grinding it to keep the end square.

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: 451Mopar] #609786
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You can cut them a bit longer, and grind the cut end down to the size you need before installing the end.
When you grind the end, just chuck the pushrod in a drill and spin the pushrod while grinding it to keep the end square.




Just seems lot a lot of room for error. If all the push rods will end up being just one or two sizes for the whole motor I would just have them made to order.


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Does anyone know if the cups can be removed once you press them on? Or will you end up screwing up the cup and/or rod trying to remove it?

Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RacerGofKGB] #609788
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Does anyone know if the cups can be removed once you press them on? Or will you end up screwing up the cup and/or rod trying to remove it?


I think it'd be if you could grip the cup in some fashion w enough clamping as to not damage it, the PR would be unaffected. Mine I did were not pressed in to tight iirc. That is an excellent idea to lightly chamfer the ID before pressing the new tip in. You might clamp the PR in the vise w something around it to protect it and w vice grips w a rag to protect the cup start easy & see how tight (or easy) it is in there & use your own good judgement how tight you want to clamp it & if individual cut to fit ones are available seperately then you dont have to be so gentle with it as if you screw it up another one is easily (cheaply) available to replace it. And you might find it easily comes out for you.


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Re: Cut to length Pushrods [Re: RapidRobert] #609789
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We put them in a lathe, back cut under the cap, and then bevel the pushrod to re install. I did 3 sets this way with no issues. It really is quite simple

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We put them in a lathe, back cut under the cap, and then bevel the pushrod to re install. I did 3 sets this way with no issues. It really is quite simple




So you took pre-made pushrods(or ones with the cap already installed) and cut below the cap and then reinstalled the caps?

I have a lathe, and i was planning on using it to cut down my rods. im sure it will do a lot cleaner job than trying to do it with a bench grinder or something else.

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