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Re: Air Dam [Re: Pyper70] #605113 02/08/10 11:14 AM 02/08/10 11:14 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen OP super gas
GTXKen OP super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	For what its wort I ordered this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...e=STRK:MEWNX:IT I'll post a pic when I get it later this week. I figured for $30 if I didn't use it for the GTX I could put it on a driver. Ken

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605114 02/09/10 07:25 AM 02/09/10 07:25 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 283 N.E. England Roppa440 super street
Roppa440 super street Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 283 N.E. England	Buddy of mine has found that the front spoiler for the new Challengers will fit the 70-74 cars with a little work and a heat gun. Looks very good on there too. Maybe they could be made to fit other Mopars? 5792722-Drewschally.jpg (97 downloads) Last edited by Roppa440; 02/09/10 07:27 AM. 2002 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 LS1 2011 Alpha Romeo Giulietta Veloce 1.6 JTD Because running a Mopar in the UK is getting TOO expensive!!

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605115 02/10/10 03:14 PM 02/10/10 03:14 PM
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Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Quote: For what its wort I ordered this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...e=STRK:MEWNX:IT I ordered one also will do a back to back et comparison this summer just to see! LOL!!

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605116 02/11/10 03:56 AM 02/11/10 03:56 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 550 ne B broncobra mopar
broncobra mopar B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 550 ne	I was looking at an old issue of Popular Hotrodding yesterday and there was a picture gallery of a 71 Torino with a front dam. I think it looks pretty good. They are about $60 I believe. I looked at the Camaro ones on ebay and there seemed to be a price difference based on the quality. Meaning the cheap ones were thin and easily breakable? I don't know but that is what some of the vendors were claiming.

Re: Air Dam [Re: broncobra] #605117 02/11/10 10:43 AM 02/11/10 10:43 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen OP super gas
GTXKen OP super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	I actually bought two different air dams. One for a 83 Ranger and one from a 67-68 Camaro. The one from the Ranger came last night and looks good. I'll take some pictures and take some measurements tonight. The one for the ranger was like $25 and the one for the Camaro was like $20. I have no problem with them bending or breaking if I hit something, better than bending the base metal they are bolted to. I'm not sure which one if either will work. Just thought I'd give it a try

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605118 02/11/10 11:01 AM 02/11/10 11:01 AM
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360view Moparts resident spammer 3 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,162 USA	always worth considering testing how well an air dam works: http://web.archive.org/web/2004080307322...tDownCalcs.html note in the above JAVA app the term they give you labeled Cd times A has the A in meters squared even if you specify everything else in square feet NASCAR teams do this despite their wind tunnel work: http://web.archive.org/web/2003061821431...ero/index1.html

Re: Air Dam [Re: 360view] #605119 02/11/10 03:31 PM 02/11/10 03:31 PM
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Lefty master L Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,516 Santa Cruz, California	Quote: always worth considering testing how well an air dam works: http://web.archive.org/web/2004080307322...tDownCalcs.html Very useful link - Thanks!

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605120 02/11/10 04:16 PM 02/11/10 04:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,906 Athens, Greece Pyper70 master
Pyper70 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,906 Athens, Greece	Quote: I actually bought two different air dams. One for a 83 Ranger and one from a 67-68 Camaro. The one from the Ranger came last night and looks good. I'll take some pictures and take some measurements tonight. The one for the ranger was like $25 and the one for the Camaro was like $20. I have no problem with them bending or breaking if I hit something, better than bending the base metal they are bolted to. I'm not sure which one if either will work. Just thought I'd give it a try We await your results and what fits better.....So I can order one as well... Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Air Dam [Re: Pyper70] #605121 02/21/10 07:27 PM 02/21/10 07:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,906 Athens, Greece Pyper70 master
Pyper70 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,906 Athens, Greece	So do we have any updates or installed pics on this? Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Air Dam [Re: Pyper70] #605122 02/21/10 09:11 PM 02/21/10 09:11 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen OP super gas
GTXKen OP super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	I have them both but my cars still in heated storage, not at home. I'll take pictures of the two air dams when I'm home tomorrow. I'll try to get over to the car this week for a test fit.

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Finally got the air dam mocked up on the GTX, which do you like? First two pictures are the Camaro model and the second two are of the Ranger

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605124 03/31/10 02:22 AM 03/31/10 02:22 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	The Camaro spoiler pics are sort of dark in the spoiler region. The reflectorized liceanse plate is messing up the flash. I'd like to see the Ranger spoiler on narrower car that has a lower valance like a: 67-69 Barracuda, 70-72 Dart/Demon, 64-65 Barracuda.

Re: Air Dam [Re: autoxcuda] #605125 03/31/10 04:53 AM 03/31/10 04:53 AM
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swisswill member Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 31 United States	Quote: The Camaro spoiler pics are sort of dark in the spoiler region. The reflectorized liceanse plate is messing up the flash. Agreed, way too hard to tell how it looks. Interested though, might save me some fab work. Will Ellis 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger, 1/2 Dart, 1/2 Viper

Re: Air Dam [Re: swisswill] #605126 03/31/10 09:35 AM 03/31/10 09:35 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen OP super gas
GTXKen OP super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	Honestly both look pretty good in person. I have some options. 1. I can mount the one from the ranger way up front just behind the bumper. If I go the route I will install the stock splash pan between the bumper and core support. 2. I can install the ranger air dam back from the bumper and direct some air upwards into the radiator. 3. I can only mount the camaro air dam in one place, it would mount back from the bomper and would likely do a better job at directing air upwards since its angled. I will need to take a couple more pictures.

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605127 03/31/10 10:58 AM 03/31/10 10:58 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,061 New Mexico D dmerc super stock
dmerc super stock D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,061 New Mexico	Thanks for taking the time to report on this. I have wanted to put an air dam on my Duster and haven't been able to find something that would be easy to install.

Re: Air Dam [Re: dmerc] #605128 03/31/10 11:22 AM 03/31/10 11:22 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen OP super gas
GTXKen OP super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	I'm not familiar with Dusters but I think these are both pretty simple to install on nearly any car. For the pictures I just used clamps but I see that I could easily mount either to the bumper brackets. In places where there is nothing to mount to a short piece of strapping or small piece of aluminum will work really well

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605129 03/31/10 12:31 PM 03/31/10 12:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Ok I'll bite...some look nice, I do like the black Charger, but what's the point? what is it's function? [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Air Dam [Re: Mr.Yuck] #605130 03/31/10 01:31 PM 03/31/10 01:31 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen OP super gas
GTXKen OP super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	Quote: Ok I'll bite...some look nice, I do like the black Charger, but what's the point? what is it's function? The purpose of an air dam is to enhance aerodynamics and stability of the car by blocking the flow of turbulent air under the chassis and pushing it around the car.

Re: Air Dam [Re: GTXKen] #605131 03/31/10 01:40 PM 03/31/10 01:40 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	if your "pushing air" its adding resistance. so how does that enhance the aerodynamics? if you want to go that route, a belly pan works much much better. depending on the front spoiler placement, it'll add a little more cooling to the rad and downforce to the front.

Re: Air Dam #605132 03/31/10 01:59 PM 03/31/10 01:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 411 Texas vynn3 mopar
vynn3 mopar Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 411 Texas	Quote: if your "pushing air" its adding resistance. so how does that enhance the aerodynamics? Because the resistance caused by the air dam is less than what is created by air traveling through and around the chassis and suspension. A belly pan would better, but is a LOT more difficult to add. Last edited by vynn3; 03/31/10 01:59 PM.

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