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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601669
02/02/10 04:30 PM
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It's a conspiracy against you Ohio boys instigated by the Misfits at BGR.




Why do I belive that.....




Cause all our crap from the Allegheny and Mon Rivers floats down the Ohio You get all our poop.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: B G Racing] #601670
02/02/10 04:43 PM
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Deerfield, Ohio
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It's a conspiracy against you Ohio boys instigated by the Misfits at BGR.




Why do I belive that.....




Cause all our crap from the Allegheny and Mon Rivers floats down the Ohio You get all our poop.




Thanks Bob...

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601671
02/02/10 05:46 PM
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Actually, I think "small block" explains it all ... go big or go home

The there's the 833 thing. That requires manual dexterity like farting and chewing gum at the same time! Why would you want to do that when you can just click it into "D" and step on the pedal ?!?!

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: quick77rt ] #601672
02/02/10 05:56 PM
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Two reasons I see....too many friends bs-ing and the mods, only doing as they are told.

But not letting people speak openly on a part or a topic that does not fit into the mainstream world gets the axe.

Its a double edge sword, when I got back into the car world only one person on the site had the balls to tell me I was screwing up 8 different ways and he was right. So it cost me a crankshaft....instead of the moparts PC response, if one would of said "hey you idiot your going to eat a crank" I would of took two steps back.

Now theres sites like the bullet or mine for instance where people can speak there mind and sort out the facts.

This is why moparts is refered to by many as the mopar church site.

Countless business owners have told me directly they stay away from here because its one sided and so much duplicity is present.



Yes, but there are too many morons running around on the Bullet that are not house broken yet. Let alone learned any manners.

Bill.


THERE IS NO SUCH THING, AS TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER
Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: quick77rt ] #601673
02/02/10 06:10 PM
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Two reasons I see....too many friends bs-ing and the mods, only doing as they are told.

But not letting people speak openly on a part or a topic that does not fit into the mainstream world gets the axe.

Its a double edge sword, when I got back into the car world only one person on the site had the balls to tell me I was screwing up 8 different ways and he was right. So it cost me a crankshaft....instead of the moparts PC response, if one would of said "hey you idiot your going to eat a crank" I would of took two steps back.

Now theres sites like the bullet or mine for instance where people can speak there mind and sort out the facts.

This is why moparts is refered to by many as the mopar church site.

Countless business owners have told me directly they stay away from here because its one sided and so much duplicity is present.






seen mods who take sides and some groups gang up and dog pile

but you can also get some good info here

as for the bullet


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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: stevehiss] #601674
02/02/10 06:21 PM
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Personally I think it's all Fred's fault

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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: rickstershemi] #601675
02/02/10 06:24 PM
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If Elvis was here he would respond to you.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: Stanton] #601676
02/02/10 06:41 PM
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The there's the 833 thing. That requires manual dexterity like farting and chewing gum at the same time! Why would you want to do that when you can just click it into "D" and step on the pedal ?!?!



Most likely he's not a dork..therefore he doesn't want to race a dorkflight..
now as far as the hp question.I ran 10.20s without problems in a 3400# car, 400+ passes with liberty gears 18 spilne..when the car ran in 9.50's i start to twist the main shaft..
hope that helps...

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: stevehiss] #601677
02/02/10 06:48 PM
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One of the things that I don't understand on here is when you have a guy that offers his opinion and then backs it up with the math and science for peer scrutiny he often gets hammered, If ya don't understand whats going on just ask more questions, If ya do understand and think its wrong, prove it, so there can be a logical debate on the subject and work out the right answers

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: d330] #601678
02/02/10 06:53 PM
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Chino Valley
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I don't respond to direct questions if I don't have input that will help, or a joke to lighten the mood and bump it up in hopes someone else can answer.
I don't have a stroker SB and I have no idea what HP an 833 will hold.
I bet the answer to the second question is similar to the ones you get for rears, driveshafts, clutches etc. IT DEPENDS.
Since HP is work and torque is the force, it's really torque that matters. It also depends on what the car weighs, what tires are under it and other variables that define the rock (engine torque) and the hard place (traction) you are subjecting the item in question.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: emarine01] #601679
02/02/10 06:58 PM
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I would love to help But I have not had a 4 speed in 20 years and never race a small block

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: not_a_charger] #601680
02/02/10 07:41 PM
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UK
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I think it's a conspiracy against people from Deerfield.





You wanna try posting from UK , had my butt kicked a few times , normally get around three answers to my posts so count myself lucky.



BG has helped me out a few times when i first joined.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 602heavy] #601681
02/02/10 08:21 PM
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BROOK PARK, OH
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I understand completly and believe me if I had any help to offer I would and do chime in.

I usually end up taking a beating on some of what I post but I'm not gonna let it get to to me. Some of it I bring on my self


I can help you kill a 727 though

Re: I don't understand................................. [Re: 602heavy] #601682
02/02/10 08:23 PM
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Well I've never ran a small block and have never raced with a torque flite but i've raced and broken a lot of 833'S. It will hold up to your 6-700 horse power if you use a clutch that will not hammer the gears out of it and a set of tires that won't dead hook. If this is a streeter no problem it's just when you get serious at the track that the trans will start to give you problems if you haven't modified it to pro shifted or face plated gears. When you do modify the trans it becomes a pain to run on the street, I used to but I saw more damage from easy shifting than power shifting at the track.



it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: Cab_Burge] #601683
02/02/10 08:47 PM
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I've been posting here for sometime now and it seems as of late that I post something and either I get no replies or one or two. I've asked questions about stroked small blocks builds, I think I had maybe 10, asked about what needed to be done to an A-833 to standup to 600-700 Hp. I think I got 3 or 4.. I don't understand am I asking wrong, or is it that no-body runs this stuff.. I doubt the latter. I come here looking for help as many others do. I dont know everything and I appreciate the answers that members give, just seems to be lacking lately. Maybe its me

But I'd like to hear some small block stroker builds. 340 or 318.. And what can I do to a A-833 to make it live at bout 600hp drag/street car. Thanks John


Not every one on here has the same parts as you or me Some have no parts or experiences other than reading articles written by other people(some scribes with little or no expereinces either ) Some don't care and respond anyways Knowing what advise to use and what not to use is the hard part As far as how to make the 833 hold up on the street and strip my way is to use a small enough tire or slipper clutch to allow some slippage on the line and on the one two gear changes Sometimes you have to be the innovater and strike out on your own with out guidance. A old freind of mine use to say that advice is worth what you pay for it Do you want my mailing address to send the check to Don't give up on this crowd, there are some really good people on here that will offer sound advice, not always on every post tho, unlike me




Cab, that is a very passive-aggressive statement to the board. I take it you would like to call someone out for something by those statements?

Just curious, not trying to critique.

As far as the OP's question, I think there are lots of people with good experience (sometimes differing from one to another) that withhold it because they are tired of getting knocked by the experts. For instance, a while back someone asked about clutch discs. I responded that my Zoom clutch didn't last very long and Rowin4 begged to differ. Did we fight about it? Heck no; simply two people with two experiences. I think the problem arises when two people have a different experience that is not easily quantifiable and each thinks he/she is 100% right. And that's when the begins...and informative members stop posting.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: Jeremiah] #601684
02/02/10 08:54 PM
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There is a reason you have to misspell those words, its cos they do not belong here.

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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 8secDart] #601685
02/02/10 09:00 PM
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I think that the computer has made it to easy to ask about things.I mean I see the dumbest $hit on here sometimes.Get off the computer and get dirty,So no one answered you.Cry me a Fing river.
Sorry dude but man up.


Damn, now THAT`S an answer for ya!........too funny.If I could help I would but not a fan of small blocks OR 4 speeds. Good luck and don`t feel bad .....I had a guy threaten my life on here a while back and when I told him I`d fly out to meet him, his song changed.


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Re: I don't understand................................. [Re: joshking440] #601686
02/02/10 09:15 PM
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Mt. Vernon, Ohio
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I think these guys are just getting old and grumpy...


Who are you calling old!!.........................


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: I don't understand................................. [Re: dartman366] #601687
02/02/10 09:35 PM
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Speaking for myself, to many sensitive members here
I haven't had a small since 92, but this year Im going
with a R5P7 motor, looking to run some low #'s
I use a 9", and a glide
You mite not get all the answers here, but it sure
makes for some good reading
Oh, and the members are getting old, have arthritis,
and can hardly type anymore

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Re: I don't understand................................. [Re: dartman366] #601688
02/02/10 09:38 PM
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look at all that responded now .Did you find any answers now .
You might try posting in general section ,??? section . I would bet more in the heavy cruising would have some answers .
I know i have asked ??? that have been answered in previous post .Or you might see same ??? in different post .
good luck from a S/B ,auto guy
DR


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