Re: Painting and garage heat question
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painting the block sorry.
I dont have a 220v outlet in my garage but I was under the impression these torpedo heaters work really well.
I was planning on getting the temp of the block up before painting
I'm using the brush on por15 engine kit if it makes a difference
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Re: Painting and garage heat question
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02/02/10 12:35 PM
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Heat the garage and engine up with the heater. The engine has to be warm too. So heat it for a few hours at least, a day is best. Then shut off heat and paint. If it was up to me and I had no real heat I'd wait until the garage hits 50° for a couple days.
Edit: the issue with heating it fast is you force water to condense on the iron.. so it needs to warm up gradually an stay warm until you spray...
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Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: Painting and garage heat question
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02/02/10 05:30 PM
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Edit: the issue with heating it fast is you force water to condense on the iron.. so it needs to warm up gradually an stay warm until you spray...
That said, if you're planning on using a "propane" heater you need to be warned that propane exhaust is carbon dioxide and water - lots of water - that, in an enclosed space will result in humidity and condensation on anything cold - like a car, and engine block, windows, walls, parts, etc.. You might consider running a dehumidifier while running the heater.
As for the carbon dioxide, open the door for about 5 minutes before you paint. The air will cool down but all the objects will retain and radiate heat.
Good luck (I'd wait for spring!!)
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Re: Painting and garage heat question
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02/02/10 09:28 PM
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but I've got nothing to do until then! lol
I should have your energy.
If you agree to paint my motor you can have some of mine lol
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Re: Painting and garage heat question
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02/03/10 12:27 AM
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A radiant heater will work, but painting an engine block in colder weather should be OK Wait until a 30s day and paint in the afternoon after everything has warmed up.. Temps inside the garage in 30 degree weather with sunshine will be in the 50s by late afternoon..
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Re: Painting and garage heat question
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02/03/10 03:29 PM
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thanks for the advice. Would a kerosene heater be any better than propane?
DO NOT---DO NOT use kerosene. it will leave an oily film on everything in the area the heater is burning. ask me how I know! go green, go electric
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Re: Painting and garage heat question
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02/03/10 06:16 PM
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I run a diesel fueled torpedo type heater inside my garage. It has a chimney to keep the exhaust seperate so I piped the exhaust outside and kept the heater inside my garage. To paint a block in winter, what I would do is let the heater run for a while to thoroughly get the garage up to a high temp, say 75-85F, then shut off the heater and do my painting. The garage will contain that amount of heat long enough for most of the solvent to flash off. Then I open the door a bit to vent the fumes, once the fumes are gone I restart the heater. Don't want to run a flame heater while there's paint fumes in the air. I can also setup the heater to sit outside and blow hot air into the garage through the window. This would be the best option for painting as it keeps the garage warm, keeps the flame away from solvent fumes and provides a source of fresh, dry air. I tried the 220v construction heater in my garage, it works, but takes all day to get my insulated single car garage up to temp. That and if you want to paint with one running, you want to get one with a sealed motor specifically made to be fume-safe. However without a source of fresh, outside air it takes paint a longer time to dry. Quote:
Edit: the issue with heating it fast is you force water to condense on the iron.. so it needs to warm up gradually an stay warm until you spray...
I do this all the time and I've never had water condense on the car, motor or tools. Even the bare steel I have in the garage doesn't get condensation or surface rust on it from rapid heating. And I am likely heating up from a colder temp than most of you. Perhaps the winter air in other areas is more moist than here.
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Re: Painting and garage heat question
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02/03/10 09:11 PM
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Perhaps the winter air in other areas is more moist than here.
Duh ... The only place drier than where you are is at the poles !!!
Humidity is relative to temperature. That's why its called "relative humidity". The colder it is the more the moisture in the air is condensed. Subsequently, someone in the balmy regions of Chicago would see moisture condensate on cold metal when the garage temps were brought up. However, someone in the frigid north such as yourself wouldn't have this issue until about mid August.
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