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Remember this heap? Actually, if you knew what you were looking at, the body was exceptional on this car. All original sheet metal except small patches seam welded in the rear lower quarters. Just like the blue 71 Cuda last year, we will be preparing this car for the mini restoration clinic on the morning of February 20th for the annual B/E & A winter party. With all the moving plans, painting floors & walls and installing a down draft easy bake oven, we will try to get as much of the assembly work done as possible. With the new facility, we will be able to do 100 percent of our restoration work in house short of motors done by Nick at Comp-U-flow and the 4-speed boxes by my very good friend Gus the meat smoking maniac. I dragged the car to the shop that Saturday night of the Mopar Nationals with the help of Dennis the previous owner. He was kind enough to follow us on his way back to his home in Indiana. The actual restoration work started around the October 1st area. While the body was away, the drive line and interior work was done. If you remember, it took 5 days to assemble about 80 percent of the blue 71 Cuda last year. With all the additional distractions, I’m afraid the T/A might take 2 weeks to get it to that level  .
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I get asked all the time what it takes to do a body? Depends what level your looking for, there's 542 hours in this one.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Kinda hard to take a picture of pink, color is kinda different under the shop lighting.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hey, how did my golf socks get there?
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Since we used base/clear, instead of single stage, we will be back taping the entire car and appling the single stage over spray from paint that was left from tinting the sealer. We always tint the sealer so the color of the paint is correct and covers much better. Again, colors don't look right in the picture.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hey, is that a Jim Ridge alternator and NOS fuel filter from Dave Walden? The radiator from Bob at Glen Ray will look perfect in front of that fan.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Where can you get the "lick knob" stencils?
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Actually Bob, I borrowed them from a very good friend Ken at The Finer Details.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hey, is that a Jim Ridge alternator and NOS fuel filter from Dave Walden? The radiator from Bob at Glen Ray will look perfect in front of that fan.
who did that awesome fan clutch for you? car looks killer. 
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I've seen first hand a lot of the componets for this car. Judging by the amount of detail poured into the seperate parts, this is going to be one heck of a restoration.... I can't wait to see the finished product.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hey, is that a Jim Ridge alternator and NOS fuel filter from Dave Walden? The radiator from Bob at Glen Ray will look perfect in front of that fan.
who did that awesome fan clutch for you? car looks killer.
Honestly Chris, I did the fan in house here at B/E & A.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hey Mike,
Car looks fantastic and is going to be really nice when you are done with it. I have to ask though. What is a "lick knob" stencil? I know about paint dobs and such.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hey Mike, Wow! that is looking awesome  I remember looking at that one at the Nats Can't wait to see it complete Talk too soon Bob 
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hey Mike,
Car looks fantastic and is going to be really nice when you are done with it. I have to ask though. What is a "lick knob" stencil? I know about paint dobs and such.
Joe
Oh, come on Joe, you know which ones. The million dollar axle tube numbers, trans numbers and where ever else they go.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I will be keeping an eye on this one!! Keep up the good work.
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Didn't have much time today with all the painting going on in the other building. Was able to get most of the bottom over spray done, we'll finish that tomorrow along with the wheel wells and cowl, core support and rocker black out.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I have some good pictures of how that pinch weld was painted if you need. I think Barry has the paperwork explaining it as well.
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Very nice, you are making great progress, coming from someone who took 7 years to do his T/A but hey, mine was burned!!!
Such a great restoration, make sure you put the 340 6pack fender decals on slanting forward!!!
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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....I wish I had a picture of the mark she made but here we are under the car. I had a splash of white paint on the parking brake cable adjusting nut and I was showing her where to paint...
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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....I wish I had a picture of the mark she made but here we are under the car. I had a splash of white paint on the parking brake cable adjusting nut and I was showing her where to paint...
I'll guarantee you Troy, that pretty little girl you have can duplicate those paint dabs way better than we can. Could you imagine inspecting the same stuff everyday? Especially after the old liquid lunch that was so socially tolerated back then. It might of resembled a matador fighting a bull, ha take that, wow there’s another one for you, woops missed one (I’ll get the next one twice). Could you imagine bending over after a tough night bowling with the guys to get the bottom of the rockers painted? Or the guy just got engaged and he has “happy feet” and doesn’t miss a thing?
We put to much into this stuff, if you have a general understanding of the angles of spray, the application of paint during the assembly line paint process and do it with your eyes closed it will be perfect factory. Don’t get so jammed up on existing survivors because everyone is different, the actual process of painting and assembly is far more important. When simulating paint over sprays, after studying proper angles and applications, paint it like you’re selling the car and can’t wait to get it out of your garage. When you’re done, your angles of spray are correct and you think it looks like crap then it’s perfect. 
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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 It took me close to a full year for me to disassemble my car.....just to take it apart!! I have over 1500 pictures of disassembly just so I could try and "get it right" on reassembly. If I remember correctly there was a Lime Hemi Cuda that somebody restored several years ago. His goal was to make it just like it was back on the dealership floor.....but not in a good way. He had seam sealer everywhere.....overspray everywhere....trunk weatherstrip glue dripping, this car was perfect!! If I remember right the car was never accepted among the masses and when it went up for sale at Barret Jackson, it sold for far less that everybody thought. I personally like the car, I never saw it in real life but all the pictures I saw, it looked very authentic. OK, lets go back to the subject at hand. Mike, the car is looking real nice and I hope you keep us informed and updated.
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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If I remember correctly there was a Lime Hemi Cuda that somebody restored several years ago. His goal was to make it just like it was back on the dealership floor.....but not in a good way. He had seam sealer everywhere.....overspray everywhere....trunk weatherstrip glue dripping, this car was perfect!! If I remember right the car was never accepted among the masses.......it looked very authentic.
It wasn't accepted as a "dealership vehicle" that looked "new". Had you seen the car in person you would have had thought it was a survivor with 10,000 miles! Flash rust on a new car.....absolutely possible! Rust flaking from the underside(lip)trunk sheet metal, etc.....not a chance! Taking the "worst case scenario" for every aspect of a factory vehicle is not the best formula to adopt for any restoration. The problem with that particular vehicle was that it was restored to emulate the "survivors" that were used as a format during it's restoration. Had it been presented in that fashion it would have been a hit!
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Got some more work done yesterday. Inner fenders/quarters, cowl/core support and rockers.
I studied pictures of survivors I have as well as spending time on the 3,900 mile Cuda to come up with my spray patterns. They were all so different, however, you could see a common theme.
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Now that's a gem, a good job done on the wiper motor by a very good friend of mine in Canada. You might have heard of him, he goes by "You da Man" his real name is Jules.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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How about that NOS voltage regulator restored by, non other, Mr. Dave Walden. I'll wipe off the box for you Dave, that thing looks perfect.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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When you took it apart did you see any backout up the lower A pillars on this particular car?
None in the windshield track up the A pillars.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Should there not be paint spray one the negative cable? Could be wrong, seems I usually am per the Misses. ("You're right honey") Mike, looks like a very nice job but for OE a bit over-restored, such as paint on the underside of the frame rails and such. Pay backs are hell pal, aren't they? You are going for an OE restoration? Thought you told me when I was doing the hemicuda that I was just asking for a headache by trying for OE? My 1.5¢ BTW still need that NOS heat control valve? I will send it over just for your OE competition grief. 
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At what point are you going to add the black hood jamb paint? 
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Who's product did you use for the undercoating and how do you like the results? Looks great in the pictures.
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Yea, I was wondering the same thing. Could we get a few closer pics to see the sheen of the undercoat? What product did you use?
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Who's product did you use for the undercoating and how do you like the results? Looks great in the pictures.
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Yea, I was wondering the same thing. Could we get a few closer pics to see the sheen of the undercoat? What product did you use?
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2 coats of 3M Body Schutz and Transtar over the top. Also made a custom tip for the Schutz gun for a better spray pattern.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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At what point are you going to add the black hood jamb paint?
Monday/Tuesday.
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Are these temp. rims and tires?? Backside should be black with silver overspray no??? Build-up is looking awesome!!
"One more before I go home and shovel out all the snow."
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Are these temp. rims and tires?? Backside should be black with silver overspray no??? Build-up is looking awesome!!
"One more before I go home and shovel out all the snow."
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I have another set that are now on the car and you are correct, they were black on the back side.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hi Mike, this car is looking great. Can you share how you finished your leaf springs???
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They are bare metal and acid stained.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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They are bare metal and acid stained.
OK I give up, what is acid staining??
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Mike - Looking great! Hard to believe how much you have accomplished in such a short time. Dave, Steve, Tom and I would like to come to your party - but you know we have to catch up to you on the big V! Here is a little something to go with your collection..."Furious Fuchsia Pearl" (not FM3)- we are about to go into production with it... not as cool as yours though! Dave
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Your springs were not painted 80% gloss black with light green and pink inspection marks on the front ends of them???
They will be next time you see them 
The springs on this car were not painted.
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I'm extremely jellous on two levels. First of all, it seems that everyone is in love with this restorer and this job. Don't get me wrong, it looks wonderful. But, if I spent 542 hours on a body like that one, the membership here would crucify me. Likewise, when we document and restore parts as they came on the car, I'm told that it's still wrong and that it has to be how the masses expect it to be regardless of the way it was originally built. Most importantly, I had that car bought, sort of. I worked with Denny all weekend at the Nats and had agreed upon all of the details. But he had a very important timetable that would have to slip because I needed a few more days to pull together the funds. Nothing against the OP or the seller. They both did what needed to be done. I didn't want a stupid FM3 car anyway! 
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I'm extremely jellous on two levels.
First of all, it seems that everyone is in love with this restorer and this job. Don't get me wrong, it looks wonderful. But, if I spent 542 hours on a body like that one, the membership here would crucify me. Likewise, when we document and restore parts as they came on the car, I'm told that it's still wrong and that it has to be how the masses expect it to be regardless of the way it was originally built.
Most importantly, I had that car bought, sort of. I worked with Denny all weekend at the Nats and had agreed upon all of the details. But he had a very important timetable that would have to slip because I needed a few more days to pull together the funds.
Nothing against the OP or the seller. They both did what needed to be done. I didn't want a stupid FM3 car anyway!
What I did was present my one and only offer and showed Dennis the cash on Friday and to come see me if he was interested. It worked pretty simple, he showed up Saturday late afternoon accepting the offer, then I paid for the car and we were on our way within an hour to drop the car off at my shop and returned that same night for vending Sunday.
I do all my own cars so if I choose to spend that much time for the level of perfection I expect so be it, they're my cars. If I were restoring cars for a living I certainly couldn't do them that way. So, what exactly was your intent with this post, is it to promote your 25K max jobs? Are you upset someone was able to step up with the jack to pay for the T/A?
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I'm extremely jellous on two levels.
First of all, it seems that everyone is in love with this restorer and this job. Don't get me wrong, it looks wonderful. But, if I spent 542 hours on a body like that one, the membership here would crucify me. Likewise, when we document and restore parts as they came on the car, I'm told that it's still wrong and that it has to be how the masses expect it to be regardless of the way it was originally built.
Most importantly, I had that car bought, sort of. I worked with Denny all weekend at the Nats and had agreed upon all of the details. But he had a very important timetable that would have to slip because I needed a few more days to pull together the funds.
Nothing against the OP or the seller. They both did what needed to be done. I didn't want a stupid FM3 car anyway!
What I did was present my one and only offer and showed Dennis the cash on Friday and to come see me if he was interested. It worked pretty simple, he showed up Saturday late afternoon accepting the offer, then I paid for the car and we were on our way within an hour to drop the car off at my shop and returned that same night for vending Sunday.
I do all my own cars so if I choose to spend that much time for the level of perfection I expect so be it, they're my cars. If I were restoring cars for a living I certainly couldn't do them that way. So, what exactly was your intent with this post, is it to promote your 25K max jobs? Are you upset someone was able to step up with the jack to pay for the T/A?
Actually, I was being completely truthful and honest. I'm quite jellous. The car is truly beautiful. You have it and I don't.
I was also trying to inject a little humor as evidenced by my last paragraph with crybaby icon. I guess that isn't appreciated here.
It was my first trip to the nats and I enjoyed it very much. I wasn't looking to buy anything but even if I were, I never would have brought $35k in cash with me.
The better man won, plain and simple.
I'm still jellous and there's nothing you can do about it. 
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I'm extremely jellous on two levels.
First of all, it seems that everyone is in love with this restorer and this job. Don't get me wrong, it looks wonderful. But, if I spent 542 hours on a body like that one, the membership here would crucify me. Likewise, when we document and restore parts as they came on the car, I'm told that it's still wrong and that it has to be how the masses expect it to be regardless of the way it was originally built.
Most importantly, I had that car bought, sort of. I worked with Denny all weekend at the Nats and had agreed upon all of the details. But he had a very important timetable that would have to slip because I needed a few more days to pull together the funds.
Nothing against the OP or the seller. They both did what needed to be done. I didn't want a stupid FM3 car anyway!
What I did was present my one and only offer and showed Dennis the cash on Friday and to come see me if he was interested. It worked pretty simple, he showed up Saturday late afternoon accepting the offer, then I paid for the car and we were on our way within an hour to drop the car off at my shop and returned that same night for vending Sunday.
I do all my own cars so if I choose to spend that much time for the level of perfection I expect so be it, they're my cars. If I were restoring cars for a living I certainly couldn't do them that way. So, what exactly was your intent with this post, is it to promote your 25K max jobs? Are you upset someone was able to step up with the jack to pay for the T/A?
Actually, I was being completely truthful and honest. I'm quite jellous. The car is truly beautiful. You have it and I don't.
I was also trying to inject a little humor as evidenced by my last paragraph with crybaby icon. I guess that isn't appreciated here.
It was my first trip to the nats and I enjoyed it very much. I wasn't looking to buy anything but even if I were, I never would have brought $35k in cash with me.
The better man won, plain and simple.
I'm still jellous and there's nothing you can do about it.
Thx for that Tim, no offense taken.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I too am curious to what undercoating you used...
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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That undercoating looks sweet. What is Transtar? I googled it. Didn't find anything.
I used 2 coats of 3M Body Schutz #08864 and a thin coat of Transtar 4361F quick dry rubberized undercoating over the top. The Transtar I put on was strickly to give it that factory looking sheen since the 3M Schutz is to dull. The tip I made is from copper pipe that I threaded and smashed the end so I was spraying through a slot instead of a hole.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Here is the pig before I put my hands on it. I had to hand draw the assembly date and try to reproduce the original look of the original. I guess it could of been a little sloppier.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Mike, no box yet????
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Oh yea, I was going to surprise you with a picture when it goes in later today or tomorrow. It's beautiful ofcourse.
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I always worry with big parts that are fragile.
Glad it made it okay.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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No, the drive shaft isn't painted.
So who and how was the drive shaft done. It looks great! as does the rest of the car.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Maybe Dave W and/or Mike can chime in to let us know how the process to make the driveshaft look so good.I know many hours,but what steps,materials,grades of sandpaper,etc is used.Last time I looked outside I still see 24+ of snow to melt so I got time... 
It all depends on the original condition of your drive shaft, The drive shaft in the tube trick works great if the drive shaft is not pitted real bad, if it is pitted you need to sand and polish working your way down to fine paper. but the part numbers on drive shafts are very shallow and go away quick, I use the Evapo rust (about 1 1/2 gallons (Harber freight) has it, put the drive shaft in a 6' piece of 4" pvc pipe capped on one end, let the drive shaft soak for 24 hrs. remove it and was it off real well, then I use steel wool to polish it, take the torch and heat all of the welds to re-blue them, paint the cast ends with cast spray, take a file to the original grinding marks on the yokes, install some DETROIT u-joints and your there, seal the whole shaft with plasti cote, and wipe it down with very fine wool to take the shine off after it is dry, originally these drive shafts looked like new steel exhaust pipe, it is very hard to replocate this look if the shaft is rusty to start with, hope this helps you. Rich
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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You might want to check the drive shaft it look to be backwards?? I see the taper end with the slip yoke on that side.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Now for the special thx section of this post. Up first we have: Mr. Dave Walden - ECS Automotive. 1. Complete sticker kit w/door vin sticker. 2. Dash tag transfer. 3. Front & rear date coded glass. 4. NOS dated coded fuel filter w/hoses. 5. NOS date coded voltage regulator. 6. Carb stickers. 7. Carpeting. Jules - The Wiperman 1. Restored heater box supplied to him by my good friend Jim Miner. 2. Wiper motor. Jimmy Ridge - Dixie 1. Alternator. 2. Starter. David Tays (Plumbeeper) Restored steering wheel - Compared to my survivor, his work is as close to original that you'll find on the planet. Dales Cuda Shop 1. Complete exhaust system - Absolutely no drama installing, very nice piece. 2. Correct Challenger outside door handles. 3. Antenna. Mike Mancini - Instrument Specialties Complete gauge and bezel restoration, simply beautiful. Wayne Brewer - Brewers Performance All 4-speed parts including the column lockout linkage. Can't say enough good things about Wayne. Frank Battleson Dated coded hoses. Bob Groser - Fine Lines 1. Brake/fuel lines. 2. Emergency brake cables. 3. Reinstalled prop. valve brackets. 4. Small rubber boot on the prop. valve. Matt - MCB 1. Restored grille. B/E & A Restoration Parts, Inc. All the parts supplied by this low rent company were NOS pieces right off their shelve.  1. Side marker lenses and bezels. 2. Tail light lenses and bezels. 3. Front parking light lenses. 4. Inside door handles. 5. Inside lock levers. 6. Cowl screens. 7. Chrome radio knobs. 8. Drivers side mirror. 9. 3 piece tail trim. Excluding the last one, anyone of these companies are in my "Good Guys and Buddy Club". It's a real pleasure dealing with quality people with good product, it sure makes putting together one of these heaps much easier.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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That's actually an NOS cowl trim piece I been sitting on for years.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Fits perfectly in the NOS valance.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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We started this project the beginning of November, however, it seems like it's taken forever to get this car done. Another week or 2 and she will be ready for the road again.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Awesome car, really enjoyed following a long, and Kudo's for the kind words to your suppliers.
I do have a question though, could you get chrome mirrors on AARs and T/As?
Chrome? Don't think so, I wanted to cover the mirror hole on the car since I haven't painted one for it yet.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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We started this project the beginning of November, however, it seems like it's taken forever to get this car done. Another week or 2 and she will be ready for the road again.
I imagine it's "easy" to get a car done in this short of a time frame when you don't need to re-body,or I mean replace most of the sheet metal...Looks great Mike.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Awesome car, really enjoyed following a long, and Kudo's for the kind words to your suppliers.
I do have a question though, could you get chrome mirrors on AARs and T/As?
Chrome? Don't think so, I wanted to cover the mirror hole on the car since I haven't painted one for it yet.
Painted body color only on AAR & TA. (otherwise I would have used chrome on mine. I like chrome.)
I didn't see headlight bezels on your parts list Mike. What did you use for headlight bezels?
Absolutely Beautiful Car!! 
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Awesome car, really enjoyed following a long, and Kudo's for the kind words to your suppliers.
I do have a question though, could you get chrome mirrors on AARs and T/As?
Chrome? Don't think so, I wanted to cover the mirror hole on the car since I haven't painted one for it yet.
Painted body color only on AAR & TA. (otherwise I would have used chrome on mine. I like chrome.)
I didn't see headlight bezels on your parts list Mike. What did you use for headlight bezels?
Absolutely Beautiful Car!!
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There was a set of NOS bezels in the back set of the car when I bought it from Dennis.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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so Mike on that grille. you didn't do it? maybe because you had that time crunch on that 68 charger grille to get it done so that guy could make it to his reunion to see all those fat chicks!!!!  great job man!! can't wait to see it done. Hope to be back at work getting ours done but dang kids are sick so guess who gets to be home!!!!
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In reference to your engine color. What was your formula on the paint you put on it. I imagine probably an Epoxy primer, and a "spray" on not spray bomb. I like the color tint on it as opposed to the high orange color out there. Can you share your paint code?
We dusted the engine with grey primer to get a lighter color base so the Plastikote #226 Chrysler Orange engine enamal would cover better. With the light base, the orange looks really close to original.
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Mike how much did you flatten the paint for the master cylinder and booster.I'm getting ready to paint mine. Thanks Greg
About 20% gloss I would say.
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About 20% gloss I would say.
Would that be with DAR 9000 black and Ditzler flattening additive? Just curious as that is about what we have used in our shop, usually with hardener. You actually have to custom blend depending on particular part, environment (Humidity, temp, pressures, etc.) as even on a booth the outside conditions can effect the outcome at the extremes.
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great,GREAT job... a question you painted the entire car 1st, then oversprayed the chassis with primer??
our hemi cuda is on the spinner, and ready for paint, hence the question...
The car was sprayed with grey sealer than painted base/clear. The single stage pink over spray was last.
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is that a AMD repo bumper ?? It lookes like the one I sent back because it was bowed up in the middle. Challenger bumpers should have a downward bow toward the middle like the tailamps and rear vailance.
Nope, rechromed original.
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N? Or maybe just a blurred M?
Come on Scott, put your glasses on.
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Mike, your T/A looks awesome. It looked like a nice project when it was at the Nationals. It's cool to follow along with the build.
Do you have the air cleaner lid orange paint custom mixed, bought from a vendor, or is it "off the shelf"?
Nothing special, "Chrysler Orange" right from Plastikote.
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Mike, Looks Great, Can't wait to see it Oh and you also Bob
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Is that a white mark on the firewall there mike?..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... OH SORRY IT IS ON MY SCREEN FROM ME!! WOW JUST PLAIN WOW LOOKS GREAT WISH I COULD MAKE IT OUT TO DA EAST COAST TO SEE IT!!!!
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I don't think so Darren, I'm doing Carlisle because the T/A & AAR's are being featured and it's inside so I won't have to baby sit.
Mike, Bring it I'll volunteer to do the baby setting. 
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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I don't think so Darren, I'm doing Carlisle because the T/A & AAR's are being featured and it's inside so I won't have to baby sit.
Mike, Bring it I'll volunteer to do the baby setting.
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Not going to happen, besides, I kicked it in the corner to make room for the next project.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Hello Mike,
Hope you are well my friend! May I ask, what's your next project?
Would it happen to have 4 doors?
Well, DW got me so jacked up about cars with 2 two many doors I just have to do one myself.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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My bet is it is an A-body because those E bodies just are to expensive.Plus that the A-body parts are so cheap! Right Mike
No, it's a bbody Corey.
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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Oh I see said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw. Care to tell or show pics?
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Re: 2009 Mopar Nationals Pink T/A build
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so is it truely a 4dr hemi there mike? seen your post about the tire covers. do tell.
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You are so correct!! No B.S. I have a picture of my 4 year old daughter applying inspection marks and there PERFECT!! I will post the picture later. 
Jules supplies a lot of the restored componets to these OE Gold guys...He's da man 
GADZOOKS MIKE! You have been busy since I last checked this thread. I can't believe the car is just about done. Looks nice. 
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