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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/08/10 08:10 PM
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I appreciate the info I was able to gleen from this thread. In 64 I was 7 years old, yet my favorite cars were from 62 to 68 as I followed super stock drag racing by getting discard magazines from a older neighbor kid. Occasionally I got to see some racing. I've been fortunate enough to have started in this hobby with a 383 car back in 73 and have had a few performance models because I stayed with the hobby. I recently picked up a gennie mw block to build a clone as my finances and space will not allow another real car in the fleet. I will say I find it odd (and too bad) that info is not shared well on these rare cars (mw/hemi 62-71) as they are on other models. Never had I been snubbed until I got into a performance car. Don't get me wrong there are a majority of people that freely share to the betterment of all, there are exceptions however. Seems like more so since the mid 90's. I think everyone should chill and remember why we're in the hobby. If it for the fun or history, or if it's the profit. My own feeling is that the info should be freely shared between hobbiests and the profiteers can pound salt. 
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/08/10 08:28 PM
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Dave,
So who is this "inner circle" since you are obviously not part of it? Or better yet Im sure if they have all this proprietary info that you "claim" they will know how to get in touch with me. my name is listed in my profile as well as the phone book. Let me just ask you one question: Is it or is it not a chrysler enginnering vehicle?
Good day
Chrysler Engineering means nothing. A friend has been driving a '65 A990 Belvedere for the original owner for the past 30 years. It was an original Chrysler Engineering car. It only had 19 miles on the odometer when they got it from Chrysler and there was nothing special about the car. It looked like every other white/fawn 4-speed Belvedere they built.
Just because it was a Chrysler Engineering car, doesn't mean they did top secret things with it.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: sixpakdodge]
#595554
02/08/10 08:51 PM
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Prove it? Ok guys lets get your IBM cards out, how many 64, 65 cars have a region of #15 and a dealer code of #81101. Lets see how many guys wanna post up what they have. I did and its there for all to see. While were at it how many 64 max wedge cars came with transistor boxes from the factory? I bet theres a bunch of these.  you guys are making this way too easy. Hey peanut gallery (inner circle lurkers) lets get some input from you guys too. or do i have to pay for it 
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: prochargedhemi]
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02/08/10 09:37 PM
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It would make sense that if the last MW's that came off the line were converted to Hemi's they would have to have late build dates.Where is your dads car on the DD list...is it one of the last? A couple of guys here have the list....how many have later VIN's ?
Does your dad still have the 64 ?
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/08/10 11:44 PM
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It would make sense that if the last MW's that came off the line were converted to Hemi's they would have to have late build dates.Where is your dads car on the DD list...is it one of the last? A couple of guys here have the list....how many have later VIN's ?
Does your dad still have the 64 ?
That car is basically in the middle of the Superstock III build. It was supposedly shipped on January 15, 1964 It is number 19 of 39 cars built in the Plymouth Belvedere Super Stock III. The last one built was February 14Th of 1964. The earliest car was December 18th of 1963. So I guess you could say that it was a fairly average car. Not early, not late. Right in the middle. The earliest Hemi cars (according to production schedule from DD) were in June, and July for the Belvederes. SO a HUGE GAP in time. That kinda shoots the max-wedge to hemi theory down. Although who knows, I don't. Hopefully someone will chime in.
64 S/S Hemi Plymouth, 1963 4-Door (13.5-1) Max Wedge Savoy, 69-440 Dart 10.20 et 132 mph on the footbrake, 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 turbo diesel, 69-440-6 Roadrunner, 05 Hemi Magnum, 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 P/u, 2005 Viper, 98' Town & Country.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: prochargedhemi]
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02/08/10 11:53 PM
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I don't know if you'd find the info you're seeking in the publication and sometimes history on cars are lost. fwiw in might be worth the effort to pick around dd's site and maybe invest in some of his books.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/08/10 11:59 PM
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I don't know if you'd find the info you're seeking in the publication and sometimes history on cars are lost.
fwiw in might be worth the effort to pick around dd's site and maybe invest in some of his books.
64 S/S Hemi Plymouth, 1963 4-Door (13.5-1) Max Wedge Savoy, 69-440 Dart 10.20 et 132 mph on the footbrake, 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 turbo diesel, 69-440-6 Roadrunner, 05 Hemi Magnum, 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 P/u, 2005 Viper, 98' Town & Country.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/09/10 12:15 AM
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Does any one know if the region-15 dealer-81101 is "Chrysler Engineering"? Are the 2% cars still in existence? Quote:
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I don't know if you'd find the info you're seeking in the publication and sometimes history on cars are lost.
fwiw in might be worth the effort to pick around dd's site and maybe invest in some of his books.
Good advice ..... '64 hardtops had dual exhaust & full interiors ..... sounds like a "street car" to me.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/09/10 12:32 AM
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Does any one know if the region-15 dealer-81101 is "Chrysler Engineering"?
Are the 2% cars still in existence?
Good advice ..... '64 hardtops had dual exhaust & full interiors ..... sounds like a "street car" to me.
6bblgt, how do you figure this on your last point? He's posted pictures of all the modifications done on the car, he posted pic's of the inverted shock-tower, pic's of the firewall, said it's had an aluminum front-end and Hemi engine installed early on in it's life. This to me would be one hell of a street-car if someone built this thing! So the question is who did all of the work to this 64 Belvedere hardtop, someone in the Detroit area must remember this thing?
hemicar1971, so what's the story on that blown 64 Dodge sedan that you posted, and where was that pic taken?
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/09/10 12:50 AM
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Does any one know if the region-15 dealer-81101 is "Chrysler Engineering"?
Are the 2% cars still in existence?
Good advice ..... '64 hardtops had dual exhaust & full interiors ..... sounds like a "street car" to me.
6bblgt, how do you figure this? He's posted pictures of all the modifications done on the car, he posted pic's of the inverted shock-tower, pic's of the firewall, and said it had an aluminum front-end and hemi engine installed early on in it's life. This would be one hell of a street car if someone built this thing! so the question is who did all this work, someone in the Detroit area must remember this thing?
hemicar1971, so what's the story on that blown 64 Dodge sedan that you posted and where was that pic taken?
Someone in Detroit surely must remember that car in one form or another. It still doesn't mean that it was a "factory Hemi car" It has some confusing stuff on and about it, no doubt. Could that stuff been added later? Definitely. I wish we had some history on the previous owners of the car. That would help. But again, the car shows a mid-build, max-wedge. Nothing more, nothing less. That does not mean that something did not happen in the early years. Chrysler as we all know did some strange stuff, so you can never say never. I would like to see some history on the car. Other than that, I would still like to know what happened to this original thread? We have gotten sidetracked. Why were these cars built, and who knows about them?
64 S/S Hemi Plymouth, 1963 4-Door (13.5-1) Max Wedge Savoy, 69-440 Dart 10.20 et 132 mph on the footbrake, 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 turbo diesel, 69-440-6 Roadrunner, 05 Hemi Magnum, 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 P/u, 2005 Viper, 98' Town & Country.
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