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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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6 of the white & gold Dodges are "company cars"; there are 2 pairs based on "dealer" (department/company use?) numbers. With the exception of the four "REEDMAN" cars the remaining 60 cars all have various zones and individual dealers all around the country. Quote:
What is your point about Pomona?
I thought I had something close by to add - more on that later, but would the HEMI hardtops even been a pipedream with the sedans just being sorted out?
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/07/10 03:51 AM
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Rico he's a very private person, I sent you a PM.
Is it the "concrete guy" 
You missed your calling for sure. CSI Dave
64 S/S Hemi Plymouth, 1963 4-Door (13.5-1) Max Wedge Savoy, 69-440 Dart 10.20 et 132 mph on the footbrake, 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 turbo diesel, 69-440-6 Roadrunner, 05 Hemi Magnum, 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 P/u, 2005 Viper, 98' Town & Country.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/07/10 04:15 AM
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I'd hazzard a guess that it was to build street cars (at least as streetable as the Max Wedges) to legalize the HEMI for NASCAR, to give in to the crying that it wasn't a "production" engine or what ever the NASCAR rule book spelled out. 34 of 70 cars have heaters, none have 999 paint or 999 interiors. Then when NASCAR ruled no HEMIs, the street car idea was canned, no need for '65 street HEMIs.
That thought is one that I agree with. Again, if you were just replacing max-wedge cars, why wouldn't you just build that number. Instead Chrysler built 35 of each dodge and plymouth hemi hardtops and 55 of each hemi post cars. The thought, that Chrysler was just trying to apease NASCAR sounds logical to me. 
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/07/10 04:49 AM
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Wasn't Ronnie Sox racing a 64 Mercury for the 64 season, and if he won a brand new Hemi car from Chrysler (that didn't exist either yet) at the Winter-Nationals, maybe he received it later on, along with a new contact to drive for them in 65. So instead of him taking the Hemi Dodge that he supposedly won, he took a Hemi Plymouth and switched teams, (yeah I know it's a long shot, but it's possible). And as far as those 10 extra white hardtops you're all talking about, are you 100% sure they were all Hemi cars, or just regular Polara 440 hardtops? You do know that Hurst had several promotional giveaways over the years right, and I can't see Chrysler handing out "Race Hemi cars" either to winner's from various races, there would have been some kind of print about that! Hell I remember seeing the ad "Win a new Street-Hemi motor" in the 66 magazine's, but I can't imagine them giving away complete running 426 Race Hemi cars?
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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02/07/10 05:46 AM
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6bblgt, I like how you added all that extra info in and high-lighted in about the 64 Polara 440 hardtop's, only after I mentioned it in my post above, lol. Still doesn't say anything about anyone winning any Race Hemi's though. 
I'm digging through magazines trying to come up with accurate info, my computer has been locking up so I've posted after some typing and added some missing info.
Drag racing in '64 wasn't the big business it is today. Selling the prize car for gas money probably isn't too far from the truth, but there was prize money involved also. I wonder if Mercury would let him keep it? One of these magazines has to have award/prize/trophy presentation pics with the cars in the background. A voucher (in February) for a car not yet deteremined to be built does not sound logical. 
These pics are from HOT ROD April '64. Looks to be one of the convertibles in the last pic. At this point I'll "assume" those are two 383 4-speed hardtops. & the two give-a-way Falcons in front of it?
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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6bblgt, so are these some of the 10 extra white/gold 64 Polara 440 hardtop's that you guys have been talking about for the last few of pages. Because I recall you talking about Chrysler building 10 more extra cars that were white/gold 64 Dodge Polara's, (remember earlier on) and you then added these 10 extra units to the list of the 35 Hemi Dodge 440 hardtop's that were built mid-summer. And 64Post, yes you can clearly see in the photo that photo was taken at the Winter-Nationals and those white/gold 64 Polara hardtop's were there. But would you happen to have any "engine shot's" of any of these 10 white/gold Polara hardtop's supplied by Hurst? I honestly think that both of you guys got your info & facts mixed up on the time-lines & production dates of these Race Hemi hardtops & regular Polara 440 hardtop giveaway cars. That's what threw you guys off trying to figure everything out, but it's just an honest mistake, and it's no big deal. 
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Neither did any of the HEMI cars sedan or hardtop listed in DD's book.
