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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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#595408
01/29/10 11:51 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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3861's almost identical to a 3705 though.
Yep, and it's the "norm" for a 64 Race Hemi to have them (although I'm fairly certain the fuel filters should have red ink stamps not blue). That intake manifold is wild with such an early date, I can only surmise that it's a VERY early experimental piece or possibley a casting error with the year being wrong (which is not all that rare, I've seen that on other manifolds).
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#595409
01/29/10 12:00 PM
01/29/10 12:00 PM
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3861's almost identical to a 3705 though.
Yep, and it's the "norm" for a 64 Race Hemi to have them (although I'm fairly certain the fuel filters should have red ink stamps not blue). That intake manifold is wild with such an early date, I can only surmise that it's a VERY early experimental piece or possibley a casting error with the year being wrong (which is not all that rare, I've seen that on other manifolds).
The filters im really not sure on. I seen em and had to have em. The intake i believe is an early piece. when compared to a 65 or later intake it has the thick front and rear flange were the later ones were thin for the cork gaskets
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: prochargedhemi]
#595413
01/29/10 03:22 PM
01/29/10 03:22 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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Photo suggestions: Is the 63 dated intake bolted to an engine? If so please try to remove as many parts as possible to unobstruct the details of the manifold, crank up the indoor lighting (your photos are a bit dark, likely due to poor lighting and a long exposure time), and shoot a pic straight down on it, from each side, and each end, capturing the entire intake in one shot in each pic. If it's possible to get a side by side with the 65 intake (same angles) that would be awesome! Also, for better/clearer shots, pictures taken with no flash using outdoor natural sun as lighting (in the shade or under overcast skies is best) are usually the easiest conditions to take pics with good results. 
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: prochargedhemi]
#595416
01/29/10 05:57 PM
01/29/10 05:57 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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Very nice job! Now, carefully pack each on in a well insulated box, then put that box into a second well insulated box and ship them to: Scott Smith 9807 E. Broadway Ave. Spokane Valley, WA 99206 Thank you! 
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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#595420
01/30/10 03:25 AM
01/30/10 03:25 AM
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Where are all the 1964 Nascar cars? We see a ton (give or take) of 1964 NHRA cars, but where are the NASCAR cars. Who has one. What are the vins? How did racers get them? I think there were something like 60 NASCAR Races in 1964. There has to be a few cars floating around. Maybe 1 or 2...ya think? That might help solve this mystery. 
64 S/S Hemi Plymouth, 1963 4-Door (13.5-1) Max Wedge Savoy, 69-440 Dart 10.20 et 132 mph on the footbrake, 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 turbo diesel, 69-440-6 Roadrunner, 05 Hemi Magnum, 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 P/u, 2005 Viper, 98' Town & Country.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: LO23M8B]
#595422
01/30/10 12:15 PM
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It is a fairly good bet that some cars were reskinned as 65's.They never threw away anything they could use. Yes I know that the boycott of Nascar went on in 65 and there was not as many cars running until late in the year. As I posted earlier some cars were damaged.There was no boycott in USAC for 65 so perhaps some filtered over to that series.Others likely were sold and ran in local races.Regardless of the fact that they were either bodies in white or reworked complete cars most just became old broken down race cars that ended up stripped of the good stuff and the rest discarded.I am still checking how many teams received at least one or more complete cars.Two so far.
Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
[Re: mike s]
#595423
02/02/10 09:58 PM
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Can someone tell me if the 1964 Ramcharges Dodge 330 is the real deal hemi car?
Tim Hennessey/Bill Drakes 1964 Hemi Car is that still around?
The 1964 Hemi Car with the Blown Dual plug Hemi in it, is that car still in that condition.
The Ramchargers race team had a couple of 64 Dodge's, one was a 64 max-wedge hardtop, and the other was a 64 Hemi sedan 2% car.
And yes I also remember Tim Hennessey's white 64 Hemi Plymouth sedan. It was featured in a couple of magazines back in the late 80's, but I don't know of it's where-abouts today.
I'm not sure of the 64 w/blown hemi you speak of, was it a hardtop or sedan.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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#595425
02/03/10 12:11 AM
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Thanks for the post. Hopefullly more 64 Hemi guys will chime in. 
64 S/S Hemi Plymouth, 1963 4-Door (13.5-1) Max Wedge Savoy, 69-440 Dart 10.20 et 132 mph on the footbrake, 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 turbo diesel, 69-440-6 Roadrunner, 05 Hemi Magnum, 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 P/u, 2005 Viper, 98' Town & Country.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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#595426
02/03/10 12:33 AM
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Can someone tell me if the 1964 Ramcharges Dodge 330 is the real deal hemi car?
Tim Hennessey/Bill Drakes 1964 Hemi Car is that still around? The 1964 Hemi Car with the Blown Dual plug Hemi in it, is that car still in that condition.
The Ramchargers race team had a couple 64 Dodge's, one was a 64 max-wedge hardtop, and the other was a 2% 64 Hemi sedan.
I'm not sure about the other one you speak of, was it a hardtop or sedan.
I believe the 2% car started out as a Max Wedge.
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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops
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#595427
02/03/10 12:35 AM
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Also what is known about this car? Looks to be steel 64 Hemi car, pic enclosed. Hood appears to be Hemi not Maxi. Owner or driver Bill Dill. Note: picture description stated early 64. How early? That I do not know, but it was racing a 64 Thunderbolt. I also have a theory that indeed some cars were replacements for Maxi cars.
Here are somemore 64 Plymouth hardtops that were posted before on Moparts. In the first pic, this is a real 64 Hemi Plymouth hardtop racing a 64 thunder-bolt, and I believe the owner was from Minnesota.
I'm not sure about these other two pics though because there were several racers that raced 64 Dodge & Plymouth hardtops, be it max-wedge or hemi cars, and would be real hard to document them just by old photo's unless you personally knew of the car.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/4864489-scan0029_001.jpg
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/4865455-2017261-TRITAK1.jpg
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/4883969-scan0258-vi.jpg
I also recall Dave Wren racing a 64 Plymouth hardtop out of the north-west.
Depsite the hood scoop, the Tritak & Morgan car was a Max Wedge as far as I know, and so was Luke Garner's Gratiot Auto Supply car.
Dave Wren raced the '64 Plymouth as a one year only rule change thing in 1969. It started off as a plain old Fury hardtop according to Dave Koffel, who built the car for him.
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