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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops [Re: LO23M8B] #595388
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exception to the rule?

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Dave the car I spoke of in my earlier post that was sold at a Detroit dealer was a lightweight not steel front end Belvedere 4sp hardtop.It was sold in early 65.The location of the car today is known.Also what is known about this car? Looks to be steel 64 Hemi car, pic enclosed.Hood appears to be Hemi not Maxi. Owner or driver Bill Dill.

Note: picture description stated early 64. How early? That I do not know, but it was racing a 64 Thunderbolt.I also have a theory that indeed some cars were replacements for Maxi cars.

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here is an article i have from a few years back


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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops [Re: prochargedhemi] #595393
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That car shows up as a Plymouth Belvedere Super Stock III, Aluminum front end car, in DD'S book. If you want, I will PM you the rest of the vin to verify that.


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Re: 1964 Hemi hardtops [Re: 64Post] #595395
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Can't speak for all the hemi hardtops but the one raced by Gary Ostrich here in Iowa was originally purchased by a man wanting a max wedge. Ordered a max wedge 64 Plymouth in January and was informed production stopped but could get a hemi later.

When the hemi arrived in June/July he didn't want it and Gary ended up with it. This is the car now owned by Pat Goff in MN.

As for the Nichels Engineering cars I've seen paperwork on some of the race cars with the vins listed and they do not match any of the hardtop hemi cars.

As previously stated the stock cars were primarily built in early 64 and the hemi hardtops were built in the summer.

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That car shows up as a Plymouth Belvedere Super Stock III, Aluminum front end car, in DD'S book. If you want, I will PM you the rest of the vin to verify that.




Nice job, Rico. Where would we be without Darrell Davis?

John, thanks for posting the punch card. It helped me figure out how the aluminum option was designated on the card. Looks like you finally got your answer. Great car!



I sure wish Darrell knew why this was done? Like i have said. Its known it was a supposed to be a wedge car, but it never left the factory with one

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I sure wish Darrell knew why this was done? Like i have said. Its known it was a supposed to be a wedge car, but it never left the factory with one




I was just getting ready to ask if it had the inverted shock tower for the Hemi!

Wow, that's interesting....

If it didn't have that it'd be relatively easy to assume it was a Max car converted to Hemi by someone.

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I sure wish Darrell knew why this was done? Like i have said. Its known it was a supposed to be a wedge car, but it never left the factory with one





Can you confirm the tower mod was done before the car left the factory?
Can you confirm the Hemi was in the car before it left the factory?

The shock towers were issued by Chrysler and given to racers to be retrofit on the cars that either, didn't have them when they left the factory, or for guys to drop Hemis into their cars.




No i cannot confirm that. I wasn't there. but either can anyone else. If i could we wouldn't be having this conversation. I can tell you when my dad stripped the black paint that had been bombed in the engine compartment there was red paint over that area. I doubt someone would take the time to metal finish and then paint when doing a "conversion" there had to be a first!!!!

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Can someone tell me if the 1964 Ramcharges Dodge 330 is the real deal hemi car? Tim Hennessey/Bill Drakes 1964 Hemi Car is that still around? The 1964 Hemi Car with the Blown Dual plug Hemi in it, is that car still in that condition.

Also is the 1964 Dodge and Plymouth Hemi/maxie books, do they have the same information as the 1963 books. If so could someone look up how many Dodges and Plymouths were shipped into Canada.


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I have DD's '64 Dodge book, it has region & dealer codes for the HEMI hardtops (all shown as 440s).

it shows:
7 - company cars
6 - eastern region
7 - midwest region
8 - central region
2 - southern region
5 - western region

They went all over, with only two originally destined for the south.
Accounting for the 35 HEMI Dodge 440 hardtops, no showing for any cars shipped to Canada unless I'm missing something.

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Heres some food for thought. 6 24 63 W


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I gotta go do my stuff and make the wife popcorn, and watch 500 days with her... ain't nothing like a chick flick with the wife after talking about hemi cars ain't life good..


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Are those 3705 Carters on a Hemi manifold?


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I gotta go do my stuff and make the wife popcorn, and watch 500 days with her... ain't nothing like a chick flick with the wife after talking about hemi cars ain't life good..




Good man.....my father always told me no peace during the day.....no piece at night.

I have to scan in and post a pic of my Dads '64 post Hemi car. I enjoy looking at and learning about all of these cars.

Wally.

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Are those 3705 Carters on a Hemi manifold?




3861's almost identical to a 3705 though.

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