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416 combos #594461
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How fast are you going with your 416 combo?

I'm putting together a 416 with ported eddy heads m1 intake 750 carb.

Going in a 3300lb car. 4200 8 inch conveter 3.91 gears 30 inch tall tire

just trying to get an Idea on what thse combos are running.

I do plan on hitting it with some juice not a ton but some. double cross bar plate system

Re: 416 combos [Re: Voluster] #594462
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Well I'm running a 422" which is a 4.10 bore with 4.00 stroke. At 2920lbs it's gone 6.20@109. This is with very little tuning. Should be a solid 6.0-6.10 car soon. Indy 360-2 heads and intake, custom Diamond dome pistons, ect.


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Re: 416 combos [Re: Jacob Pitt] #594463
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Mine is 416 ported W2's by ShadyDell, 11.2:1 wiseco pistons, CAT H beams, Victor W2 intake, 950HP carb, 4400 TA converter. Dana 60 w/4.56's and 1 7/8" TTI's. weighs 3134 w/driver. I only have 11 runs on this new car but it shows promise. the best to date 10.5 @ 126.24. Jim

Re: 416 combos [Re: Voluster] #594464
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I'm running a 408 in my Aspen 3420# w/driver and runs 10.76 @ 123. with a best 1.41 60' but with 4.30 gears & 30" hoosiers.KB744 pistons,forged scat I beams,forged Scat crank,mildly ported Eddy heads,590MP cam,Super Victor,750hp,TTI step up headers.I'd like to get a 950hp from Bigs and see how that would pick it up.Now that TTI has 1 7/8" headers for these cars i should start saving for that upgrade as well.
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Re: 416 combos [Re: 77DragracerR/T] #594465
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my combo is a 416 4.070x4.00 with ported Indybrocks and a baby roller 246/254 @ 50 with .590 lift car weights 2961 and it has gone 6.50/105 in the 1/8 and 10.35/130 in the 1/4.
60' 1.041 with 4.88 and 32x14 M/T running a Q950


70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
Re: 416 combos [Re: dusturbd340W5] #594466
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Keep them coming fellas

I'm hoping this pig goes low 11's high 10's on the motor and low 10's high 9's with the bottle

Re: 416 combos [Re: Voluster] #594467
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Replcae that carb. Way too small. I start at 870 wet flowed on a 4" arm and those are fairly mild. Bigger is better on the stroker engines in terms of carbs.


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Re: 416 combos [Re: Voluster] #594468
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dana 4.88
10.5X30 Hoosiers
3200 with my fat azz in it.
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Re: 416 combos [Re: Voluster] #594469
01/26/10 03:39 PM
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I had a 416 with moderately ported eddies,( maxed at 275) flat tappet( 260@ 50) 11.8 compression, weiand excellerator, 1000cfm race demon, dinky tti headers, 4900 flash convertor, all in a column shifted, bench seat, 3400 pound car with leafs and went 10.74 with it.I drove that combination 40 miles each way to the track several times to race it.

personally i dont think the m1 is the best choice of intakes( like the excellerator or victor both much better) and it likely will run better with a 950ish carb on it, but you will be mighty impressed with its performance possibilities.


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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: 416 combos [Re: B3422W5] #594470
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Why do you say the M1 intake is no good? I don't see much difference from the victor. They are both single planes

Not afraid of trying a bigger carb just gotta get the motor together

Re: 416 combos [Re: Voluster] #594471
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Quote:

Why do you say the M1 intake is no good? I don't see much difference from the victor. They are both single planes

Not afraid of trying a bigger carb just gotta get the motor together




i didnt say it was " no good" i said i like both the victor and excellerator better( both those are single planes as well)my personal choice is one of the above, and i have used both. IMO, they both have better fuel distribution.

most " standard headed" good running smallblocks i have seen dont run the M1. thats just my personal observation and opinion, nothing more.

just cause Mopar makes it doesnt make it the best choice. i currently have a w5 motor, the last choice i or most anybody i know to run on a w5 would be either of the mopar w5 intakes.
just food for thought is all. but hey if you have it run it, its not like there is a huge difference you are going to see with any of them.
you just asked for opinions, and i gave you mine, thats all

Last edited by B3422W5; 01/26/10 05:27 PM.

69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: 416 combos [Re: B3422W5] #594472
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416 cubic inch,W8 heads,3050 pounds,10 inch tire,8000 stall converter..runs 5.60's in the 1/8 8.90's in the 1/4 on bad tune in the heat N/A.

Motor is for sale


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Re: 416 combos [Re: FASTFISH420] #594473
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I Asked you you gave me the low down. Thats Why I started this thread Thanks

I've had this intake for about 15 years

if there was a big difference I would goto the Victor but if you say this is not much difference I'm gonna stay with the M1

I just hope mine runs as fast as some of your combos are

Re: 416 combos [Re: Voluster] #594474
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not a 416 but a 408, 40 over 360 block,eagle internals, 13/1 comp, ported eddys, victor man, roller cam, 950 carb, 5200 vert w/727, 8 3/4 410 gears, 3000# best run in sig, havent really tweaked it all out yet


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Re: 416 combos [Re: Stroker Scamp] #594475
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I HATED the Mopar M1 for the smallblock. I went to the Edelbrock AirGap and mine picked up. Then went to the Super Victor and it picked up more. The SB M1 is junk...

Re: 416 combos [Re: FASTFISH420] #594476
01/28/10 03:13 PM
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Hello,
What do you use for an oil pan & tubluar front and headers? How much do you want for the motor?

Re: 416 combos [Re: DaKuda] #594477
01/28/10 04:47 PM
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Quote:

I HATED the Mopar M1 for the smallblock. I went to the Edelbrock AirGap and mine picked up. Then went to the Super Victor and it picked up more. The SB M1 is junk...



Not to get off topic But you and DRAGRACER R/T have the super victors much gain over VICTOR and what stage of porting ?Bought mine VICTORunseen port JOB sucks match port worse .
BACK to topic
my 418 is in sig eddy heads, flat tappet cam,
just run the intake you have to have a starting pt .
Good Luck
Don

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Re: 416 combos [Re: 10 o to go] #594478
01/28/10 06:17 PM
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I never compared the 2 victors but was "told" the Super was much better. As for port match you'd think Edelbrock would have better quality control then that!


77 Aspen R/T 60'@1.41 10.76 @ 123.26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya3Ue8KoZk
Re: 416 combos [Re: 77DragracerR/T] #594479
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My Victor W2 was even worse than that. Really poor quality control if you ask me...

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Duh...I just noticed my sig and realized that my old mill was a 416 and I could probably contribute to this post and even stay on topic
10.3-1 comp- ross pistons eagle h-beams, MP forged crank
ported 1'st gen w2's
1.6 jesels- 2.08/1.60
Victor W2 340 intake w/ 1" spacer
Mighty demon 825
TTI step tube headers with full exhaust& x-pipe
1.6 jesels- 2.08/1.60 valves
Comp solid flat tappet 260/266 586/597 112 c/l
12lb flywheel

I don't know what the car weighs but I'm thinking 3500-3600 for sure with 4'spd and 4:10's & 26.1 tire.
Et's were all over the map but mph was 120-122 on any given day.
Idled relatively smooth- sounded like a healthy 340
Was a awesome combo till I blew it up...

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