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Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? #591739 01/23/10 08:19 PM 01/23/10 08:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,888 Weddington, N.C. Streetwize OP master
Streetwize OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,888 Weddington, N.C.	Or at least dying a slow death? In these days of 800+ HP blown Shelby Super Snake mustangs and 1200HP Nissan Skylines and even our domestic V8's all going turbo to go 'silly fast' is a 550hp small block or even a 750hp NA big block getting to be just 'so so' anymore? Everybody just seems to have power adder fever anymore, pretty soon to go NA (even with massive cubes) you're probably bringing a knife to a gun fight on any given 'test & tune night. Not being cynical, just seems like power adders are getting to be the norm anymore. WIZE World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI In Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Streetwize] #591740 01/23/10 08:29 PM 01/23/10 08:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	It's all about competition I think. If the guy in the next lane up the ante and 'goes blown', you either have to pony up your motor or follow suit. I also think it's a "natural" process of increasing the power in a car. It's either building a stroker or pressurize the intake. On a personal note, eventhough I don't have competition to deal with, I still want to have a blown motor... Just for kicks, as I don't have the ability over here to dragrace on a regular basis. So I'll just build the motor to beat the neighbor to the local supermarket maybe... Artificial competition? BigBlockMopar.com

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #591741 01/23/10 08:33 PM 01/23/10 08:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,287 Dalton, MA Slipknot440 master
Slipknot440 master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,287 Dalton, MA	why not turbo. You can make a natural motor that makes 300 hp with good parts in it (not great) slap two turbos watch it push 450hp and still get 300 hp mpg as opposed to the alternative.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Slipknot440] #591742 01/23/10 08:37 PM 01/23/10 08:37 PM
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Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Slipknot440] #591743 01/23/10 08:39 PM 01/23/10 08:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 Lunch is on me!
joshking440 Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: why not turbo. You can make a natural motor that makes 300 hp with good parts in it (not great) slap two turbos watch it push 450hp and still get 300 hp mpg as opposed to the alternative. You slap 2 turbos on something making 300hp your gonna make 600 the first time you crack the throttle. I think that is why its a no brainer for people wanting to go fast.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Streetwize] #591744 01/23/10 08:40 PM 01/23/10 08:40 PM
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1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	hey its just diferent kinds of fun, i mean i can always apreciate the sound of a real radical NA motor as well as the thunder from a bigcube engine as much as i like the sound of a screamin blower. a real fast NA motor is still the most impresive engine in my eyes. im going twinscrew blown just because i found a great deal on a twinscrew that i just couldnt ignore and then it snowballed from there.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Streetwize] #591745 01/23/10 08:43 PM 01/23/10 08:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,760 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,760 Eagle, Idaho	95% of the local drag race cars have carburetors. There are a few guys who run nitrous, and a couple that have a turbo or supercharger. Most of the power adder types seem to be the casual racers who come out three or four times a year just to see how fast their car is and then they go back into hiding. If I was building a race only car I would stick with a carburetor based on what I see. The carbureted cars seem to be the most consistant and as a result they are also the last ones standing at the end of the day. Some of the turbo cars top-end like crazy, but they can't put together two good passes back to back. They usually end up missing their dial-in by a mile. Turbo cars don't seem to 60' very quick so the guys running them get overly excited at the tree and redlight. My brother occasionally pits for a guy who has a 7-8 second turbo charged car and it's hard to drive. It's either on or off and when it's on it's difficult to control on a marginally prepped track. 1000+hp is probably a lot of fun in perfect conditions, but it does more harm than good if the track is cold or poorly prepped.

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Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? #591747 01/23/10 08:54 PM 01/23/10 08:54 PM
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BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	I don't really think EFI is intimidating to most, it's just that it's unreasonably expensive for bigblock guys. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Streetwize] #591748 01/23/10 09:19 PM 01/23/10 09:19 PM
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blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	for an entry level person like myself it was the fastest way to go faster.i got my 1st taste of boost on motorcycle and i was hooked.a basic draw thru carb turbo.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: blownzoom440] #591749 01/23/10 09:34 PM 01/23/10 09:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,119 sc T tjmarcus1 top fuel
tjmarcus1 top fuel T Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,119 sc	i don't mean to tell tales out of school, but i still think it's rather exciting to be able to make 5 sec. 1/8mi. passes with eddy heads and a flat tappet cam, all natural. i take a lot of pride in doing that. as a matter of fact, there isn't another door car at greer dragway that does it.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: tjmarcus1] #591750 01/23/10 09:40 PM 01/23/10 09:40 PM
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fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Carb here all the way. Why race to the red light and be bored once you have overpowered your machine beyond the ability to keep it straight and consistent.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: tjmarcus1] #591751 01/23/10 09:42 PM 01/23/10 09:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH B blownzoom440
blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	Quote: i don't mean to tell tales out of school, but i still think it's rather exciting to be able to make 5 sec. 1/8mi. passes with eddy heads and a flat tappet cam, all natural. i take a lot of pride in doing that. as a matter of fact, there isn't another door car at greer dragway that does it. and what does that get you?pride in yourself like the the rest of us.just enjoy what you do. [Carb here all the way. Why race to the red light and be bored once you have overpowered your machine beyond the ability to keep it straight and consistent. ] and what would big daddy say to that or tommy ivo and many others? Last edited by METAL STORM; 01/23/10 09:47 PM.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #591752 01/23/10 09:46 PM 01/23/10 09:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,888 Weddington, N.C. Streetwize OP master
Streetwize OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,888 Weddington, N.C.	Let me be clear, i'm not saying that this is my point of view, i'm just trying to get an interesting topic going. I just look at how things trend over time and the number of really quick turbo and blown street cars is increasing every day...I just wonder if us 'old school' carb/NA guys might soon be looked at with that same nostalgic curiousity that we now look at guys that ran flatheads and 3 strombergs I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts...but I was doing blowers back when everybody would flock to see a blown street car in the pits and I've already been bitten by the turbo bug more than once, and it's tough to (even want to) be cured. Last edited by Streetwize; 01/23/10 09:47 PM. WIZE World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI In Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: tjmarcus1] #591753 01/23/10 09:47 PM 01/23/10 09:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,298 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,298 Bend,OR USA	I have sen a few of the street driven boosted and power adder cars here locally, none of them will run there cars against anything they think can give them a run for the money, bunch of posers As far as makning the car go faster power adders are the only way to make a motor make more power than it will N/A That being said you still have to hook it to make it go faster, its a never ending battle Lots of ways to skin the kitty Ultimately it s up to you to decide what makes you happy. Driving and racing a Mopar has always meant marching to a beat of a different drummer I have never cared what the masses thought or drove, that is why I drive and race Mopars I believe in the make your self happy theory and sc--- what the rest of them think or do Life is short, make the most of the time you have Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Streetwize] #591754 01/23/10 09:50 PM 01/23/10 09:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	I know I`m not the fastest n/a car on earth but DEFINATELY the fastest street driven car in the high desert so far and that includes 540+ cube chubbies. I know power adders rule the planet in terms of shear brutal power and awe factor but I`ve always been impressed with n/a cars/trucks from day one. Anyone can build a fast blown,nos or turbo car w/enuff money so to me, it`s no big deal however I`m very impressed w/the 6-second nova that won the street car shootout. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: blownzoom440] #591755 01/23/10 09:59 PM 01/23/10 09:59 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,119 sc T tjmarcus1 top fuel
tjmarcus1 top fuel T Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,119 sc	Quote: Quote: i don't mean to tell tales out of school, but i still think it's rather exciting to be able to make 5 sec. 1/8mi. passes with eddy heads and a flat tappet cam, all natural. i take a lot of pride in doing that. as a matter of fact, there isn't another door car at greer dragway that does it. and what does that get you?pride in yourself like the the rest of us.just enjoy what you do. [Carb here all the way. Why race to the red light and be bored once you have overpowered your machine beyond the ability to keep it straight and consistent. ] and what would big daddy say to that or tommy ivo and many others? oh yeah, i do agree it's fun to watch a boosted car run. and hey, my son's dart has spray that i put on it, but i don't take as much pride when it makes a fast pass.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: tjmarcus1] #591756 01/23/10 10:05 PM 01/23/10 10:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH B blownzoom440
blownzoom440 B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,647 ELYRIA,OH	quote:oh yeah, i do agree it's fun to watch a boosted car run. and hey, my son's dart has spray that i put on it, but i don't take as much pride when it makes a fast pass.quote: and that is what makes you happy. it takes just as much tech in the upper levels of boosted power as it does in SS or anywhere else.

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: chryco] #591757 01/23/10 10:11 PM 01/23/10 10:11 PM
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rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Quote: Not Here ! X2 900-1000 N/A hp @ 2200#'s is anything but boring Rickster

Re: Is Normal Aspiration 'dead' in terms of Excitment? [Re: Cab_Burge] #591758 01/23/10 10:26 PM 01/23/10 10:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid 340B5 pro stock
340B5 pro stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid	My thoughts exactly: A couple years back a I ran a fella w/ a blown 302 mustang and spanked him like a circus monkey at the start. I was out about 6 car lengths and started to wonder if he broke when he finally started to creep up on me at the finish. His margin of victory was .oo34(about 6 to 8 inches), He thought I got him and was so aggravated he pulled directly back on the trailer. There are a lot of people out there like me who still enjoy the challenge of doing it the hard way. Yeah, it's got a smallblock.

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