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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #582965
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Also, for the record. I remember that the 66 Hemi Charger off Cora's (the Mauve survivor) was also was lacking the air cleaner decal. She had the dealer swap the 426 fender emblems for 383 because she was tired of street racers egging her on, it's possible the dealer also removed the air cleaner decal but she claims it was never there.




I'll ask my father and see what his recollection is regarding the air cleaner decal.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582966
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Ed- thanks for posting about the car again! So, are you buying the X9 '69?


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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: 70440+6bbl] #582967
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So, are you buying the X9 '69?




Counting up my pennies... among other things. Had I not bought the M, things would be a little different.

We'll see.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582968
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My name is A. Greg Bull and I purchased this car from Ed Jacod in May of 1968. I was the second owner and attached is the only picture I have of the car. As far as the car being a real four-door, this picture should help clear things up a little. Attached pic was taken in front of my house on Wales Ave. River Edge, NJ in 1968. Close inspection will show the 426 emblem behind the right front wheel and front anti-sway bar that came with the hemi option package can be seen as well. I installed the mag wheels in the picture shortly after purchasing the car from Ed. The car came with the full wheel covers as shown in the pictures from EWJ above.

I would be interested in any comments. Thanks.

Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: 66belvII] #582969
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a little bigger and lighter.... click the attachment for a larger view of this picture..... thank you for posting it....


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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: AZ-Nick] #582970
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Greg- thank you for responding! Quite a sight!
I will pass on your regards to my father.

Nick- thanks for the pic.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582971
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Greg- You made reference to the window sticker on the other board: did my father pass on the mileage book with the sticker when sold to you? We've never been able to locate it- only the book from the 68 Hemi RoadRunner has been found. Do you recall when you sold it, how it was sold (newspaper, parked at a gas station or something??) and the name of the person or where he lived?


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: 66belvII] #582972
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Close inspection will show the 426 emblem behind the right front wheel and front anti-sway bar that came with the hemi option package can be seen as well.






Did you reinstall the badges when you bought the car? EWJ says his father removed the badges after delivery.


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Close inspection will show the 426 emblem behind the right front wheel and front anti-sway bar that came with the hemi option package can be seen as well.






Did you reinstall the badges when you bought the car? EWJ says his father removed the badges after delivery.




My recollection of my father's tales regarding the emblems are obviously incorrect . I will be speaking to him tonight for clarification- or perhaps I may be able to persuade him to join in this thread.

More to come.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582974
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Sold the car to Brian McCullough(not certain of spelling) - think it was 1970. He would have been 3rd owner. I believe Brian graduated from River Dell High School(Oradell) in 1969. I remember having window sticker and owner's manual - believe both went with car to Brian. Sold car by word of mouth. During my ownership the car was parked a lot at my Dads's Esso gas station on Kinderkamack Rd in River Edge - building is still there. You're Dad would remember the station.

Sent you an email from my BB earlier w/ my gmail address - hope you rec'd.

Thanks,

Greg

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this is getting better with every post, lets hope he has the paperwork, wow, I still cant believe this is for real, I am not saying I do not believe it, I can't believe it really existed until this thread proved it, wow..... thank you all for joining in.....


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As an update to a few points having spoken to my father today:

1) The 426 fender emblems were not removed upon initial purchase: they were on the fenders until at least early 1972 when my father repurchased the car. Sorry for the incorrect info.

2) The 426 air cleaner decal: the car never had one. Another Hemi car, ordered by my father's friend through the same dealer (Franklin Motors) and delivered in May 1966 did not have the decal either.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582977
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1) The 426 fender emblems were not removed upon initial purchase: they were on the fenders until at least early 1972 when my father repurchased the car. Sorry for the incorrect info.




That would explain the slightly grungy look of the washer bottle in the color pics, the car was at least 4-5 years old when they were taken right?

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1) The 426 fender emblems were not removed upon initial purchase: they were on the fenders until at least early 1972 when my father repurchased the car. Sorry for the incorrect info.




That would explain the slightly grungy look of the washer bottle in the color pics, the car was at least 4-5 years old when they were taken right?




Scott- The engine pics were taken at the time I've stated in a prior post (within 1 week of delivery). The FENDER emblems are to what I am speaking to in point "1".

Point "2" is speaking to the air cleaner decal: and when the question was raised, my father immediately responded that there was never one on his car. He then went on to say that his friend’s car never had it either- without my even asking.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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I am in the process of contacting Brian McCullough (3rd owner)- he is currently in the Los Angeles area.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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1) The 426 fender emblems were not removed upon initial purchase: they were on the fenders until at least early 1972 when my father repurchased the car. Sorry for the incorrect info.




That would explain the slightly grungy look of the washer bottle in the color pics, the car was at least 4-5 years old when they were taken right?




Scott- The engine pics were taken at the time I've stated in a prior post (within 1 week of delivery). The FENDER emblems are to what I am speaking to in point "1".

Point "2" is speaking to the air cleaner decal: and when the question was raised, my father immediately responded that there was never one on his car. He then went on to say that his friend’s car never had it either- without my even asking.




Ed:

I am sure you are 100% correct in yours and your fathers recollection of what was(or wasn't), on the car when new. Just disregard all of the pinheads that think ALL of these cars HAD to be produced to the letter of the standard. They have NO clue. Often the case, especially in the early days, there were omissions, errors and other such quirks that make the point that there were no absolutes.

MB

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Mike- I too have the same disposition, especially when it comes to Mopar: things were not always as they should have been, or of logical combination.

I've located a pic of the car from 1979- the way it appeared (and in the same parking lot no less...) when stolen on 7/4/1980 :

5742724-HEMI_1979.JPG (662 downloads)

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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Ed:

I am sure you are 100% correct in yours and your fathers recollection of what was(or wasn't), on the car when new. Just disregard all of the pinheads that think ALL of these cars HAD to be produced to the letter of the standard. They have NO clue. Often the case, especially in the early days, there were omissions, errors and other such quirks that make the point that there were no absolutes.

MB





Hey, name calling insn't called for here, I was not being derogatory in the least, I was simply asking questions because there were some things that were out of the norm, I didn't use the word "Never" or "Always" did I?

The way I read it he said that his father removed the emblems when it was new, then later read that they were'nt removed until 1972 when he bought it back. Since the emblems were not shown in the pics of the car when it was new something didn't add up.

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Deep breaths here, this is too good of a thread to get the axe. Please.


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