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MP XHD Leaf Springs #582013 01/14/10 09:48 AM 01/14/10 09:48 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Oh I ipstrategies OP member
ipstrategies OP member I Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Oh	I have a 71 Charger 383 Mag and have a chance to pick these up? Street use only any comments? Thanks

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: ipstrategies] #582014 01/14/10 11:00 AM 01/14/10 11:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan	If you want the car to sit very low and flat, get them. If you want the car to sit high in the back, don't get them. That pretty much sums it up....

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: ZIPPY] #582015 01/14/10 11:37 AM 01/14/10 11:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,980 30 Rock JS29 master
JS29 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,980 30 Rock	Quote: If you want the car to sit very low and flat, get them. If you want the car to sit high in the back, don't get them. That pretty much sums it up.... ESPO - Springs & Things

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: JS29] #582016 01/14/10 11:59 AM 01/14/10 11:59 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	they are a stock height replacement spring - I've used them in the past and like em!

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: ZIPPY] #582017 01/14/10 12:09 PM 01/14/10 12:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,739 Grand Forks, ND Hemi_Ram top fuel
Hemi_Ram top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,739 Grand Forks, ND	Zippy, I have a 67 RT Coronet and replaced the original XHD springs with new XHD springs; car sits as you described. Do you know if the 3600 or the 3800 lb super stock springs would raise the car an inch or so? Also would it be level? I have used the 0002/0003 springs on a couple of A bodies but the right always was higher than the left side. Thanks Sorry to hijack this thread. www.picturetrail.com/hemi_ram

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: Hemi_Ram] #582018 01/14/10 12:24 PM 01/14/10 12:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada D dirtybee super stock
dirtybee super stock D Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada	when i first finished my '70 bee i put the XHD mp leafs on and after they settled the car sat too low for my liking (pretty much level). so after 3 years i spent the cash on the 3800lb ss springs and hangers. i loved it... for about 6 months and now it's not level but not as much rake as i like. viewed from the back it's not crooked looking. both sets had "made in mexico" on them.

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: Hemi_Ram] #582019 01/14/10 01:26 PM 01/14/10 01:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,844 S.E. Michigan	3800lb SS springs will raise it up an inch + no problem, with the front hanger bolt set in the top hole. In the bottom hole, the lift is more like 2 or 2.5 inches (ballpark). And yes, they are made in Mexico just like every Dodge truck leaf spring has been since roughly the late 1980s. There is only one Chrysler leaf spring facility, and that's where it happens to be located.

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: ZIPPY] #582020 01/14/10 02:01 PM 01/14/10 02:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 520 New Zealand nz383man mopar
nz383man mopar Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 520 New Zealand	I have a 70 Barracuda 383, it was a bit soft in the read with it's standard (not XHD) springs. Some XHD springs came up for a good price (new) so I fitted them. The car is still quite low but it gives a much better ride especially with passengers in the back or anything in thr trunk.

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: nz383man] #582021 01/14/10 02:26 PM 01/14/10 02:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Oh I ipstrategies OP member
ipstrategies OP member I Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Oh	Since mine are the original from what I can tell. I am sure they should be the better then I have on it. I was wanting to make sure there were no problems with them. Thanks

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: Hemi_Ram] #582022 01/14/10 07:29 PM 01/14/10 07:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA 3 375inStroke Special needs person
375inStroke Special needs person 3 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA	Quote: Also would it be level? I have used the 0002/0003 springs on a couple of A bodies but the right always was higher than the left side. You know that Mopars have adjustable ride heights, right?

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: 375inStroke] #582023 01/14/10 08:00 PM 01/14/10 08:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 824 NH 72challorange He's Game
72challorange He's Game Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 824 NH	These are the XHD's after a couple years. SWame springs, just different tire heights make a big difference. 26" tall on the 17's and 29" tall on the 15's. Tom

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: 72challorange] #582024 01/14/10 09:00 PM 01/14/10 09:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 69 Pittsburgh, PA Deuces-Wild member
Deuces-Wild member Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 69 Pittsburgh, PA	I was also going with MP XHD but came across too many complaints on sagging - "weak steel from Mexico". Went to ESPO, ordered hemi +1 setup and still very happy 2 yrs later.

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: Deuces-Wild] #582025 01/15/10 12:14 AM 01/15/10 12:14 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Yup, put them on my charger about 3-4 yrs ago and the damn MP XHD basically flattened out and then kinda inverted themselves where they meet the shakle and pivot. We just redid the suspension in our 70 chally last year and went with Espo. All I can say is when I can afford to redo my springs in my charger, I am going with ESPO again!

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: ] #582026 01/15/10 03:26 AM 01/15/10 03:26 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 520 New Zealand nz383man mopar
nz383man mopar Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 520 New Zealand	Here is a pic of mine, XHD were new about a year ago, they are way better than the originals & if they sag I'll get some SS or equivalent but I'm happy for now.

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: 375inStroke] #582027 01/15/10 09:04 AM 01/15/10 09:04 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: Quote: Also would it be level? I have used the 0002/0003 springs on a couple of A bodies but the right always was higher than the left side. You know that Mopars have adjustable ride heights, right? not in the back with stock style parts!! sure you can turn the torsion bars to adjust the front, but that won't do anything for the rear, and the offset spring rates make the rear sit uneven Photobucket sucks

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: 70Cuda383] #582028 01/15/10 09:44 AM 01/15/10 09:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,393 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,393 Pikes Peak Country	True, you cannot change the locations of the rear spring mounts easily, but if you turn up the opposing torsion bar, the rear will level its self out. The XHD springs are a stock Hemi replacement part. They are designed to OEM specs for ride height. They do not provide lift, but do provide torque control. What a lot of us tend to forget after 30+ years, is a lot of mopars did not have a rake from the factory, but instead were more nose up in attitude. This is why the perofrmance manual alway suggesteed altering the ride height for a nose down rake. Don't beleive me, next time you watch Vanishing Point, notice how the car sits.

Re: MP XHD Leaf Springs [Re: 70Cuda383] #582029 01/15/10 04:33 PM 01/15/10 04:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA 3 375inStroke Special needs person
375inStroke Special needs person 3 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA	Quote: sure you can turn the torsion bars to adjust the front, but that won't do anything for the rear, and the offset spring rates make the rear sit uneven Unless your car is folding in half, if you raise the front left, the rear right has to go down. I don't know what makes the rear sit uneven. Is it uneven spring rates, uneven preset arch, or what. Just turn the torsions. No need to have a lopsided Mopar.

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