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Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? #580761
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I have been looking for a while for the right gears for my wagon. I have a `68 Satellite Sport Wagon that I put a 4 cyl. turbo`d Cummins with auto. trans in. I want to run 28" tires and want to cruise at 1750 to 1850 at around 65mph. that calls for 2.1 gears.
Right now I`m running 2.76`s with 31.5 tires, and running at about 60@ 1850.
The (sweet spot) on the 4BT is around 1750 for best torque AND fuel economy.
Does anybody know of a shop with the capabilities to try to make these gears?

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580762
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youd prob be better off to run an overdrive trans, get your reduction that way...but you might try randys ring and pinion


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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: pnypwr] #580763
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I`m keeping the cost down, so the OD is out. Anyway it would have to bolt up to the Cummins plate, because of the large starter.

Ph # or E-Mail for Randy`s?
It`s in the Mag`s, right?

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580764
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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Moparzrule] #580765
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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: 71sat440] #580766
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Thanks, goin` there now.

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580767
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Some 8 1/4 Mopar rearends had 2.45 gears in them. I have one for an A-body, but I don't know if those gears were available in a B-body 8 1/4. If they were, I doubt you'd have any trouble out of an 8 1/4 strength wise. Just a thought

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580768
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I think I have a 2.76 in a 2rd member but I'd have to check its a one legger.

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: 69DartGT] #580769
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Did any B-body 9 1/4s come with 2.2x or 2.4x gears?


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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: 69L78Nova] #580770
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Did any B-body 9 1/4s come with 2.2x or 2.4x gears?




The tallest I've heard of for a 9.25 is 2.71

late 70's and 80's 8.25's can be had with 2.45 and even 2.24 gears, but I'm not sure how it would hold up behind a diesel?

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: 440newport] #580771
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Did any B-body 9 1/4s come with 2.2x or 2.4x gears?




The tallest I've heard of for a 9.25 is 2.71

late 70's and 80's 8.25's can be had with 2.45 and even 2.24 gears, but I'm not sure how it would hold up behind a diesel?




Doesn't sound like the man is beating on it just looking for a ideal cruising gear...

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580772
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I have been looking for a while for the right gears for my wagon. I have a `68 Satellite Sport Wagon that I put a 4 cyl. turbo`d Cummins with auto. trans in. I want to run 28" tires and want to cruise at 1750 to 1850 at around 65mph. that calls for 2.1 gears.
Right now I`m running 2.76`s with 31.5 tires, and running at about 60@ 1850.
The (sweet spot) on the 4BT is around 1750 for best torque AND fuel economy.
Does anybody know of a shop with the capabilities to try to make these gears?



Pics or it didn't happen. What trans are you using?

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: FuryUs] #580773
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OK, last question first. Trans was from a Dodge with a 12v 5.9 Cummins, internally a 727 but with the bellhousing to fit the Cummins/Chry. plate. I only had to change the output shaft and housing to the long one from a donor trans.

I really want to stay with the 8 3/4, but I`m sure the 8 1/4 will stand up to my driving. The Cummins puts out around 320lbs max torque with stock pump settings.

Sorry, no pics yet.
I read that maybe 8 3/4 gears in the 2.4 range were made for NASCAR, don`t know how to confirm this, and they would have to be scarce.

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580774
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I think my 77 Doba had a 2.36 9.25

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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580775
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Now that you mention it, Dave Marcis told me years ago about having a bunch of 8 3/4 chunks he was thinking of selling. IIRC, they ranged from low 2.?? setups to 6.?? something. It was 10 or 12 years ago when we were talking about it. I'd say he sold them long ago. You might try Cotton Owens, in Spartanburg,SC to see if he might still have gears like you are looking for. He's a grouchey old fart,but you might catch him on a good day.

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: Deans68plym] #580776
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Have you visited the site 4BTSWAPS.COM; there is a ton of swap info there - here's the link.
http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/index.php

I know you mention an O/D trans is out, but there may be info on a reasonably price O/D setup out there. Using a 47RH seems to be mentioned a lot. As to gear ratios, I kinda recall having an 85ish Dippy with a 2.29 geared 8 1/4 in it.


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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: JDMopar] #580777
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Some 8 1/4 Mopar rearends had 2.45 gears in them. I have one for an A-body, but I don't know if those gears were available in a B-body 8 1/4. If they were, I doubt you'd have any trouble out of an 8 1/4 strength wise. Just a thought




F/M body 8.25's are the right width and can be found with 2.24's and 2.45's I believe....

a late B 9 1/4 might have a 2.30ish rear, but is 4" too wide.


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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: patrick] #580778
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With the power he's putting out, wouldn't 8 1/4 hold up fine, especially if it was a suregrip?



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Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: roe] #580779
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You might try a 95 model 518 tranny that has OD. That is what I am currently using in my latest project build. I used a 95 since I want to control when I want it in OD.

Re: Custom gears for 8/34, 2.10 to 2.50. Possible?? [Re: patrick] #580780
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F/M body 8.25's are the right width and can be found with 2.24's and 2.45's I believe....

a late B 9 1/4 might have a 2.30ish rear, but is 4" too wide.




He's got a wagon though, I'm pretty sure a B body wagon rear is more like E body or C body width. It would probably work with the right backspace wheels though.

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