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Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: CDoering] #572076 01/04/10 07:52 PM 01/04/10 07:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY	I am not sure if Indy stocks that number. They have some proprietary Wiseco stuff I believe. KB makes a forged piston that is within .015 of the compression height you would need. I am quite certain you could face mill .015 off the top of those pistons. Diamond will make 2 changes to a shelf stock piston for a minimal charge. ( semi-custom/stock). If you have some nice Crower rods, then your should put a good piston in it and get EXACTLY what you need with the Diamonds, unless the Indy deal works out. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: Streetwize] #572077 01/04/10 07:59 PM 01/04/10 07:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: I prefer a 470 Low deck to a 493RB for the same money. The 470 is a great bucks down combination in both blocks that's real easy on parts and runs forever when carefully assembled...3.90 stroke is the same as a 455 Buick BTW great engine mike

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: Sport440] #572078 01/04/10 08:12 PM 01/04/10 08:12 PM
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WhiteB1Duster member W Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21 buffalo,new york	i love mine .koffels built 470 b1-bs headed 73 duster 2970lbs goes 9.60s .very low mantnance.

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: 1swingin] #572079 01/04/10 10:11 PM 01/04/10 10:11 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	I`ve got the "old school" kit. Stock off set ground(3.900 stroke)413 steel crank, Eagle 6.385 rods,je 12.11 comp pistons and w/rpm heads it runs pretty good and have almost 9 years in the same 400 block w/same rods and crank. Bulet proof street/strip combo that keeps on ticking. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: Thumperdart] #572080 01/04/10 10:54 PM 01/04/10 10:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 398 Ohio J jdfpam enthusiast
jdfpam enthusiast J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 398 Ohio	I agree with Muscle Mike and Todd. Great combination. We have done the machine work on dozens of them over the years with very good results. Good choice. Jeff Day Precision Automotive Machine Canton, Ohio

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? #572081 01/04/10 11:42 PM 01/04/10 11:42 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,981 SE Michigan TS3303 top fuel
TS3303 top fuel Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,981 SE Michigan	Before all the new aftermarket parts the 452/470 low deck combination was unbeatable for durability and consistency.

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: jdfpam] #572082 01/04/10 11:44 PM 01/04/10 11:44 PM
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CDoering member C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 123	Competition Wedge, I realize that custom pistons are the way to go. I am going to be using some custom Diamonds in a 499 build I have also. I was looking at all these parts I have and the only thing holding me from building a 470 is pistons. I have everything to build a mild 470 utilizing ported Stage V heads and a RPM intake. I just don�t want to spend a lot. I would rather save the coin and use it towards the bigger motor.

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: CDoering] #572083 01/05/10 12:21 AM 01/05/10 12:21 AM
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ProStock1320 super stock P Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 824 Eastern WA	Quote: ...using 6.385 rods... What about all the hullabaloo of rod to stroke ratio? While there are clearly 470s using the 6.385 rods, the shift appears to be toward the longer rod and shorter piston. Any reason for this? Not looking to hijack, just want to hear thoughts since we're discussing the 470s. Thanks.

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: ProStock1320] #572084 01/05/10 12:26 AM 01/05/10 12:26 AM
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10secGTX top fuel Joined: May 2003 Posts: 2,119 Cleveland Ohio	I have a question...headers if I went from a RB w/ eddys to a BB stroker w/eddys just plain old RPM'S how much will it change the location of the headers in 67 B body ? will I need BB specific...sorry for the Hi jack

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: CDoering] #572085 01/05/10 12:38 AM 01/05/10 12:38 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 793 Utah topbrent super stock
topbrent super stock Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 793 Utah	Looks like KB forged pistons are now called ICON. 6.535 rod, 9.98 B deck, 1.48 comp ht: http://www.kb-silvolite.com/test/icon/ic...mp;RodLen=6.535 7.1 rod, 10.725 RB deck, 1.66 comp ht: http://www.kb-silvolite.com/test/icon/ic...&RodLen=7.1 Ross Piston chrysler application chart: http://www.rosspistons.com/products/index.php#cid=7&acc_id=0&type_id=2&vehicle_id=42

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it?(Iam sold on it! [Re: topbrent] #572086 01/05/10 01:43 AM 01/05/10 01:43 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 521 somewhereintheswampsofjersey 1 1swingin OP mopar
1swingin OP mopar 1 Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 521 somewhereintheswampsofjersey	Well,ive done the research,got great input from you guys,spoke with mike from muscle motorss and sam from indy. Iam ordering the kit tomorow. The indy kit is on sale and pound for pound mike said is the best kit for stock style heads and he told me its just a great,reliable combo that makes great power and torque. He told to have the crank shotpeened and watch the taper on the jornals but minimal block cearance and it just works great! Thank you all for your help. This is gonna be fun! Anyone got a used rotating assembly for sale?!!! hey,iam cheep! I had to try! Thanksagain! I will keep you all posted. Its a 383,I swear!!!! "I aint here on buisness baby,Iam only here for fun"

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? [Re: 10secGTX] #572087 01/05/10 09:22 AM 01/05/10 09:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you.	Quote: I have a question...headers if I went from a RB w/ eddys to a BB stroker w/eddys just plain old RPM'S how much will it change the location of the headers in 67 B body ? will I need BB specific...sorry for the Hi jack BB ? Do you mean B vs an RB ? What headers do you presently have ? Most headers are a compromise so they will fit many chassis and both deck heights , some work better with one combo vs the other . the only company I know of that makes a deck height specific header is TTi , so if you don't have TTi's you should be all set. If you have an exhaust system on the car with a crossover pipe you will have to modify the headpipes as the headers will be closer together once installed .

Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? #572088 01/05/10 09:23 AM 01/05/10 09:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you.	Quote: A Muscle Motors Stroker kit is the same as a 440 Source kit. If you call Muscle Motors try to talk to Mike NOT Eric his secretary Interesting , joined yesterday and only 2 posts , both bashing a board sponser ... Muscle Motors ????

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Re: 470 lowdeck stroker/ anyone try it? #572090 01/05/10 09:46 AM 01/05/10 09:46 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,326 A gulag near you.	Quote: Definately not bashing....just speaking from experience Did the crank say [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] on it like the one BG posted in the other thread ?

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