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Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
#564095
12/27/09 03:27 PM
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I am curious as to what the extra cost of running faster than 10 second quarters is (ballpark) not including engine, etc. What I'm interested in are the yearly fees from NHRA / IHRA, required safety equipment I wouldn't already be using in the low 10's. I plan on running E.T. brackets at local tracks mostly. Also, is it worth it to run one or two Summit Racing series races? The 65 Dart will be getting a 4 link back half, 33x15 slicks, full cage, pinto front, stroked 440, 727, and a 9 inch. I'm jumping the gun, as this build will take awhile as I am doing everything myself, and money of course.
Thanks,
Roy
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/27/09 03:33 PM
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Enigine diaper,chute over 150 mph,pants and jacket,cage with window net instead of roll bar,9.90 license,physical to get license.Those are the main ones I can think of.
'33 Plymouth 5 Window Coupe Blown Aluminum HEMI w/bolt ons (under construction)
'69 Chrysler 300 Convertible 375 HP 440
'71 Plymouth Duster 360 W/EFI (Wife's Ride)
'12 Ram MegaCab Dually 6.7 Cummins
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
[Re: The Duster]
#564097
12/27/09 04:25 PM
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I am curious as to what the extra cost of running faster than 10 second quarters is (ballpark) not including engine, etc. What I'm interested in are the yearly fees from NHRA / IHRA, required safety equipment I wouldn't already be using in the low 10's. I plan on running E.T. brackets at local tracks mostly. Also, is it worth it to run one or two Summit Racing series races? The 65 Dart will be getting a 4 link back half, 33x15 slicks, full cage, pinto front, stroked 440, 727, and a 9 inch. I'm jumping the gun, as this build will take awhile as I am doing everything myself, and money of course.
Thanks,
Roy
To be honest unless you going sub 9s it isnt worth
all the money and headaches... certing the cage,
buying the ND mag to get a NHRA license, medical,
added safety equipment(pants, jacket, gloves, neck
collar)... I'm either finding a driver for my car
OR going back to 10.0 ... JMO
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/27/09 05:54 PM
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To be honest unless you going sub 9s it isnt worth
all the money and headaches... certing the cage,
buying the ND mag to get a NHRA license, medical,
added safety equipment(pants, jacket, gloves, neck
collar)... I'm either finding a driver for my car
OR going back to 10.0 ... JMO
 Anyone intrested in a RED?
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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#564099
12/27/09 05:57 PM
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To be honest unless you going sub 9s it isnt worth
all the money and headaches... certing the cage,
buying the ND mag to get a NHRA license, medical,
added safety equipment(pants, jacket, gloves, neck
collar)... I'm either finding a driver for my car
OR going back to 10.0 ... JMO
Anyone intrested in a RED?
X3
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/27/09 06:06 PM
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At what point do you you need to get a chassis certified?I thought it was 9.49 and faster,or is this wrong?
9.99
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/27/09 06:25 PM
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once you buy all the equipment, its a $100.00 fee for license renewal every 2 years and a cage recert. every 3 years which i dont know the new fee.might be $200.00 by now.
its funny, i raced 3 years going 9.80 in my dodge with no cage and no license, as soon as i went 9.40 at englishtown,all eyes were on me and i got pinched.
from that point on, i needed all equipment, and license,and new cage with cert.
i got everything and ever since no one has ever checked at any track i race at for the last 5 years.
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/27/09 07:18 PM
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i will get my 10pt cage certed just so thay can see i made some attempt to be safe.i will stick to the 10.s also but pull out a mid 9 now and then and see how much trouble i get into. 
i have the clothing and window net allready.
I know that feeling my car is certified, but I ain't.
I have been worn many times, but 2010, I must
correct this it almost cost me a money race here
@ PBI.
Which I can't figure out, most of the cars that day
look like death traps 
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/27/09 08:08 PM
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I've never wanted to go slower in almost 50 years of racing but had 5 way bypass surgury in 2003 and had to jump thru NHRA hoops to re-license. I still ran the car, starting in 2nd gear, short-shifting to run 10's. Had big fun. Everyone wanted to see if I could "run the new number". As I've posted before....NHRA phys,EKG..$430...Chassis cert..$230...being able to run 9's...ah well...tear down that net, take off your clothes, run 10.00....PRICELESS.
The little old lady from Pasadena is back!
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/30/09 09:56 AM
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I have often considered this, slowing to 10.00. I believe I would just build a 400 +.030, some small port aluminum heads, and keep it cheap. The smaller cubes will help a lot in the traction department, make the car much more of a no brainer to set up.
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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#564109
12/30/09 10:06 AM
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Thanks guys. Looks like I'll probably go with 440 cubes and iron heads. I still plan on building the chassis the same way. You never know...
I would still build a good chassis for a safe and
consistent car.... just use a smaller engine OR use
low shift points... plus you can get away with a lower
stall converter which is usually cheaper(all this is
still dependent on the final weight)
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#564110
12/30/09 10:54 AM
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OR going back to 10.0 ... JMO
I think about slowing it up to 10.0 almost every year. But I haven't done it...
IHRA is only slightly less expensive than NHRA for running 9.00-9.99. No chassis cert needed, no pants or neck collar (just 3.2A-5 jacket), no driver medical, less member/license cost. But most of the equipment requirements are the same.
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/30/09 11:24 AM
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When I go to bracket race I usally slow my car down by shifting @ like 6000, instead of 7600, this way I don't have no issues with track officials, only have issues with them when I run it all out, no NHRA license.  Car is certified, but I'm not  Oh, I forgot Im certified 730  but that don't count 
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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#564112
12/30/09 11:39 AM
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I added weight, short shifted and backed the timing off on my car this year to run 10.00.
Actually it was pretty killer for bracket racing. I could make a pass and add weight and put the car on 10.00 and keep it there through eliminations.
I am getting the car certified, getting my license again and turning it loose this year though....
67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119
68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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12/30/09 11:47 AM
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I have often considered this, slowing to 10.00. I believe I would just build a 400 +.030, some small port aluminum heads, and keep it cheap. The smaller cubes will help a lot in the traction department, make the car much more of a no brainer to set up.
I already pulled a running 440 and 727 out of a '74 New Yorker I have for the Dart. I'll probably just get an original forged crank to replace the cast one, or to save money, just find closed chamber heads to bump up the compression and stick a cam and intake / carb, to help get racing sooner. Then save up for a little more serious build.
I am still going to back half and full cage with pinto front. Someone before me cut out the floor, so it will get an aluminum floor. I will build the car as if I'm going a lot faster. I will also probably use an engine diaper after seeing crash pics of a historic Studebaker at Muncie last year at the big end barrel rolling and taking out one of the large posts holding up the time display at about 6 feet up! I heard NHRA offered him a Studebaker to build again. Sorry, I don't remember his name or what he decided to do.
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Re: Extra cost of going quicker than 10 sec
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#564114
12/30/09 06:30 PM
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If you get it certified the car should be worth more if you sell it. I tried to call to send my liscense runs and pysicall in for 9.99 ,but NHRA on vacation till 4th. Don't need diaper unless you run super gas in a div or national event ,  but can run brackets without it . window net gloves neck collar fullface helmet 5layer jacket 5layer pants shoes open cockpit going nines not priceless  they accecpt M/C VISA Don
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