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How much NOS will a cast crank take #555785
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A friend wants to put NOS on his car with a stock 360 cast crank and stock rods ross pistons what would be a safe amount .I told him lets build a good steel crank and h beam rods motor together frist then put the NOS to it

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: scottb] #555786
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We sprayed the piss outa a pretty much stock 360 with 125 shot, only thing was ring gap set up for the shot and arp rod bolts and reduced timing when spraying,beware.... its fun

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: scottb] #555787
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I have always heard that a stock engine could take a 150 hp shot of nitrous. I ran my magnum motor at this level for 3 years before I build my 408.


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Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: blk00rt] #555788
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been sprayin a stock 360 bottom end since o4
.63 and .78 jets depending on track.. on a big shot plate.
seems to be taking it...?
dont know what that computes to ?
it is polished rods and lightend rotating assy.
with K.B. hypers..
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Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #555789
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i had a stock 360 bottom end with forged repl pistons, Stock crank stock rods etc, In my car it ran 13.00 on motor and 10.90 with nitrous, It had two plates stacked for a two stage, both jetted at 175each so yea that was 350hp on a stock crank stock rod motor. Keep it out of detonation youll be surprised at what lives..Id keep it to 175 though and you should be ok. A 360 cast crank is pretty beefy


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Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: n20mstr] #555790
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Keep it out of detonation youll be surprised at what lives..Id keep it to 175 though and you should be ok. A 360 cast crank is pretty beefy




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Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: bigtimeauto] #555791
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when you all say stock bottom end, are the ring gaps and rings themselves stock as well?

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: mshred] #555792
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As far as i know the rings are not cut for NOS

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: n20mstr] #555793
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both jetted at 175each so yea that was 350hp on a stock crank stock rod motor.






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Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #555794
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been sprayin a stock 360 bottom end since o4
.63 and .78 jets depending on track.. on a big shot plate.
seems to be taking it...?
dont know what that computes to ?
it is polished rods and lightend rotating assy.
with K.B. hypers..
fwiw..
cheapst.





.068 around 200hp .078 around 275hp


most stock engines can take a 150 shot with no problems, as long as you take timing out and run good fuel, might have to put a colder plug in. just keep reading the plugs.

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: blk00rt] #555795
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blk00rt did your magnum motor have hyperutectic pistons when you were spraying N.O.S. on it.If it did,were the rings gapped bigger for it.I have a 360/380hp crate motor and I was wanting to try spraying it without regapping the rings.Maybe 100 or 125.I only run 1/8 mile.

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the 360 magnum was a completly stock lower end. It had hyper pistons and rings were never touched. I ran it for 2-3 years on the stock bottom block until I decided to change to the 408.


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.068 around 200hp .078 around 275hp


most stock engines can take a 150 shot with no problems, as long as you take timing out and run good fuel, might have to put a colder plug in. just keep reading the plugs.




I always thought .082 was about 200

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: blk00rt] #555798
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the 360 magnum was a completly stock lower end. It had hyper pistons and rings were never touched. I ran it for 2-3 years on the stock bottom block until I decided to change to the 408.




Thanks for the info.Did you say you sprayed 150 on it?

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There's a number of guys on the Dakota R/T Forums spraying 150 on stock bottom ends, and have been for years...


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"Thanks for the info.Did you say you sprayed 150 on it?"
yes, I do have a timing retard unit and I pull 1-2 degrees out but I dont really have to, I do it just to be safe.


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Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: Adobedude] #555801
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Thats no different than How many licks to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.

It will take just enough to brake it

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: Sue] #555802
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I think you will find that the crank shaft is not the weak link, Its every thing that sits behind it

Re: How much NOS will a cast crank take [Re: emarine01] #555803
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Got a stock bottom end 400,I mean stock.I have hit this motor with 250 forever.Keep the timing out and all will be good.Lenny

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what's the max you can spray without regapping the rings?

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