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Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: Defbob] #551495
12/13/09 01:17 PM 12/13/09 01:17 PM
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World blocks don't require supports welded in on the front cam journal. I don't know why Indy made it open on the front of the block



Tell me more? They might not have great quality control but...????


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Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: 440Jim] #551496
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The World site says the blocks have Priority main oiling system. How is that done? I don't see a separate main bearing oil galley in this pic (like the Koleno blocks)






Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: BIG BEAR] #551497
12/13/09 06:14 PM 12/13/09 06:14 PM
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Here is some more info on the World Blocks.

http://www.raybarton.com/supermill.htm

There is an oil flow diagram as well for those interested.

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Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: Hemi Allstate] #551498
12/14/09 09:35 AM 12/14/09 09:35 AM
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Here is some more info on the World Blocks.

http://www.raybarton.com/supermill.htm

There is an oil flow diagram as well for those interested.

Mark

From that, it looks like the same old wedge/hemi oiling layout. I don't see any new priority main oiling change.
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Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY #551500
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World blocks don't require supports welded in on the front cam journal. I don't know why Indy made it open on the front of the block



I would like to know more about this mod? I ran the Indy block and have lots of pics..so please explain what your talking about?

Thanks
Bob








How did the need for this mod come about?
Cam troubles?
Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: The Shadow] #551501
12/14/09 01:34 PM 12/14/09 01:34 PM
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That modification is needed when you take a raised cam block and machine for the larger roller bearing cam bearings with the cages.You loose too much material with this modification and reinforcing the area becomes necessary.

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Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: B G Racing] #551502
12/14/09 02:29 PM 12/14/09 02:29 PM
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That modification is needed when you take a raised cam block and machine for the larger roller bearing cam bearings with the cages.You loose too much material with this modification and reinforcing the area becomes necessary.



Thanks for setting that bit of info straight!

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Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: bigtimeauto] #551503
12/14/09 03:08 PM 12/14/09 03:08 PM
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That modification is needed when you take a raised cam block and machine for the larger roller bearing cam bearings with the cages.You loose too much material with this modification and reinforcing the area becomes necessary.



Thanks for setting that bit of info straight!

Just look at the material on a stock cam location bore,a raised cam bore and and a modified bore for 55mm roller cam bearings,a $500 dollar option which needs a special cam.

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Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY #551504
12/15/09 01:42 PM 12/15/09 01:42 PM
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Seriously considering getting that block from BM, but it's a raised cam block.


Pitfalls for this for a car mainly for the street? Needs custom valvetrain? Cam? Can you run hyd. lifters if the cam has been raised since these lifters are so tall.

What's the typical costs for getting the lifters bored and bushed (want to run a hyd. roller)?

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Bill Mitchell blocks are bushed. cam is raised but lifters are in stock position not sure if there's a chain and gears for a raised cam but a Jesel belt drive costs around 1400.00



The particular block they have on sale, lifter bores aren't even bored, much less bushed:
Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #551507
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Bill Mitchell blocks are bushed. cam is raised but lifters are in stock position not sure if there's a chain and gears for a raised cam but a Jesel belt drive costs around 1400.00



The particular block they have on sale, lifter bores aren't even bored, much less bushed:








That would make alot more sense!

Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY #551508
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Fred,
The link you gave (expired auction) had both raised cam and spread lifter bores (.200"). I am just curious, what is the going cost on a roller cam made for the special lifter locations?
Re: ALUMINUM HEMI BLOCKS WORLD VS INDY [Re: 440Jim] #551509
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My wold block , same one listed above on sale was bushed, #088521 Raised cam ,use either Jesel or gear drive $$$$$$

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