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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: hyefatman]
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: dart4forte]
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12/05/09 10:48 PM
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Sometimes you have no choice but to use the Borsen joint, which is actually better than the stock knuckle,...if a stock look is what your after, then your going to have to play with the motor mounts, some shimming might help, loosen the box to see if you can "move" it some, or break out the dremel, and elongate the holes to move the box over, or remove and "dimple" the header tube, I've used a peice of oak dowel to place on the offending tube, then hammered the oak, puts a nice "dimple" in the tube without busting up the coating, do this with the header removed and supported 
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: JDMopar]
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12/05/09 11:35 PM
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Flaming River has a coupling that I used. Its not as big as the stock piece and will fit manual or power steering. It worked for me, but my set up is a little different than yours. I have: 73 Challenger, stock k-frame (318 car), 426 hemi crate motor, manual steering, schumacher motor mounts, and TTI headers.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: hyefatman]
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12/06/09 07:00 AM
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i still do not understand how tti can sell a perfect
fit product and it does not work - based on the picture and replys it seems a lot of people have the same problems -
Probably cuz they're not using stock pieces, just like your K-frame.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: CokeBottleKid]
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12/06/09 09:22 AM
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if you are using the pad style motor mounts you can shim the mount. schumacher headers actually come with them, maybe they can sell you just the shims.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: 340duster340]
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12/06/09 09:34 AM
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what i have seen is that we used spacers on the inside of gear box to frame bolts to offset it for clearance then losen the bolts on the colum inside and slide it over ever so much this will work! do you see it?no feel it? no!! just a thought (cheap fix) 
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: CokeBottleKid]
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12/06/09 10:26 AM
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i still do not understand how tti can sell a perfect
fit product and it does not work - based on the picture and replys it seems a lot of people have the same problems -
Probably cuz they're not using stock pieces, just like your K-frame.
Don't blame TTI, things have to be moved around to make big tube headers fit. Your car is not stock.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: hyefatman]
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12/06/09 10:26 AM
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i still do not understand how tti can sell a perfect
fit product and it does not work - based on the picture and replys it seems a lot of people have the same problems -
In a perfect world they would drop in as claimed , but this isn't a perfect world , I'll use the excuse a certian company used about their NO HACK install .... PRODUCTION TOLERANCES ... plus you have a REPOP K frame . I'll bet TTi blames it on the K ...
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: 340duster340]
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12/06/09 10:29 AM
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if you are using the pad style motor mounts you can shim the mount. schumacher headers actually come with them, maybe they can sell you just the shims.
Yes they sell the shims separately , I bought a set a couple years ago to make up the difference for what they were selling as a factory big block A body replacement mount that was thinner than the stock mount .
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: dart4forte]
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12/06/09 01:43 PM
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That's one of the things that TTI fails to tell you. Are your motor mounts old? If so the engine is sitting lower than if you had fresh mounts. Quick fix, change the mounts and get a u joint from Flaming River.
i'd also like to add that if you end up using the Flaming River joint you may have to maching it down a bit. if you think you are having problems try putting the TTI's in an early a-body.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: hyefatman]
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12/06/09 09:19 PM
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I just thought of something  If Hemispherical Reproductions made your K frame out of a B-body core, your steering box sits at the wrong angle. B & E body k frames will physically bolt into either car and work with everything bone stock. But throw something like headers that might have a very close tolerance into the mix, and it could possibly cause the problems you are experiencing. In a B-body, the steering box points upwards to the rear at a greater angle than does an E-body steering box. I know it may sound like I'm taking up for TTI,which I'm not...I just wanted to give you more info that I thought of.  Oh, and I'm 52...and know EXACTLY what you mean about headers back in the day!  Good luck
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: hyefatman]
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12/07/09 12:30 AM
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it also looks like the header is just touching the
steering box --do i take a hammer to it
I would try and shift the engine 1st. Headers are always a pain, but worth the effort imo. I had to use a Dremel tool and grind some casting numbers off the side of my PS box to get my Doug's to fit rather than dent the head pipes. You need very little clearance on the drivers side because the engine torques away from everything. 
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
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12/07/09 01:33 AM
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I put the TTI's on my 69 Dart with a 340 and had some minor clearance issues, so I made some 3/8 or 1/4 spacers (cant remember right off) to raise the motor up a little and that worked fine. You cant see them so it looks stock. Also I was told by a TTI rep. that not all stock K-frames are welded exactly the same so there might be some minor issues there also. Good luck!!
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: hyefatman]
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12/07/09 10:43 AM
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ARE YOU USEING THE THE STOCK THROUGH BOLT ON THE DRIVERS SIDE ?
If you want try this remove the drivers mount and buy a set of steel $14.00 mounts and install only the drivers side with a hardware store grade 5 though (long ) bolt in 5/8 inch size , this will cause the motor to be slightly higher on the drivers side and very strong also we have been running a 440 4speed b-body like this for years and also a 426 aluminum block hemi in a 71 challenger like this also no problems .
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: cjs69mope]
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12/07/09 10:49 AM
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ARE YOU USEING THE THE STOCK THROUGH BOLT ON THE DRIVERS SIDE ?
If you want try this remove the drivers mount and buy a set of steel $14.00 mounts and install only the drivers side with a hardware store grade 5 though (long ) bolt in 5/8 inch size , this will cause the motor to be slightly higher on the drivers side and very strong also we have been running a 440 4speed b-body like this for years and also a 426 aluminum block hemi in a 71 challenger like this also no problems .
Do they make a solid mount for the HEMI sytle mounts ?
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: DennisH ]
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12/07/09 11:01 AM
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OK. It's Monday. What does TTI say?
E-Body guys maybe should go to E-Body exclusive sites for advice. Seem to have more problems than B or others here. My B TTI's are fine. I'm just saying...
Is TTi even open yet? It's only 7 am on the LEFT COAST ...
I know EXACTLY what they are going to say ...
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: JohnRR]
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12/07/09 11:08 AM
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OK. It's Monday. What does TTI say?
E-Body guys maybe should go to E-Body exclusive sites for advice. Seem to have more problems than B or others here. My B TTI's are fine. I'm just saying...
Is TTi even open yet? It's only 7 am on the LEFT COAST ...
I know EXACTLY what they are going to say ...
Me too.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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12/07/09 07:27 PM
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blah blah blah, for what they charge they should install themselves. for some they work great and for others not so much. The fact that the car or engine has dropped 1/32 of an inch shouldn't effect fit. I know 2 guys that bought complete kits that had huge fit issues. Jeesh I'd expect it form a $230 kit but not a $1000+ kit.
Good luck, I hope they don't recommend swapping mounts, changing column and so on.
If they don't make/design them for a 'stock' installation, what else would they have to base the design on?
If your engine is not in a stock location, and your engine components are not in a stock location, how can you possibly blame tti for that??
Because if they fit nicely in your 'non stock' location, then they probably would not fit anything else.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
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12/08/09 10:15 AM
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blah blah blah, for what they charge they should install themselves. for some they work great and for others not so much. The fact that the car or engine has dropped 1/32 of an inch shouldn't effect fit. I know 2 guys that bought complete kits that had huge fit issues. Jeesh I'd expect it form a $230 kit but not a $1000+ kit.
Good luck, I hope they don't recommend swapping mounts, changing column and so on.
If they don't make/design them for a 'stock' installation, what else would they have to base the design on?
If your engine is not in a stock location, and your engine components are not in a stock location, how can you possibly blame tti for that??
Because if they fit nicely in your 'non stock' location, then they probably would not fit anything else.
I don't know but I've used cheap headers and mid price headers on many BB B-bodys and have never had to dimple, ding or bend them. None of them dragged or had extensive leaks as many claim on this site. The thing you have to do is TAKE your time, get the motor up, steering column out and most fit pretty easy. for somebody to charger $6-700 for a set of headers is crazy. The 72 340 swinger I had had a set on it. Nice yes, but after 3 years of driving they looked like any other header out there. I put a set of Summit headers on my bro's 318 67 sat in about 30 minutes. (mani's off, engine up and column in the car. The fact that a car..or the cars engine has dropped a tad should have that much of an impact on your headers. I'm guessing from the factory they had a + / - on engine height.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: hyefatman]
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12/08/09 10:55 AM
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should be all stock motor mounts
all new stuff with newcoms hemi k frame
i was told i would have ZERO clearance issues
can not wait to call TTI on monday
do you know what part # i need to buy-
do i just get rid of the stock steering
coupler and go with after market
it also looks like the header is just touching the
steering box --do i take a hammer to it
I had the same problem w/ the TTI's in my Hemi Challenger. We moved the column over a little, & installed the Shumacher Poly Lock Mounts. One tube still hits the box, so I had Firm Feel make a stage 2 J Body box & file it down so it won't hit. The J Box doesn't have the dome that hits & if you take some pics of your fittment issues & email it to Firm Feel, (dennis@firmfeel.com),& they'll make one for you.
I'd suggest not going w/ stock motor mounts, as my Hemi's torque busted the new driver's stock mount on mine. Haven't installed the new box yet, but may dimple the tube anyway. Good luck.
Last edited by Triggerfish; 12/08/09 11:03 AM.
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Re: tti exhaust headers do not fit !!!! hits cuupler
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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12/08/09 02:16 PM
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Sometimes you have no choice but to use the Borsen joint, which is actually better than the stock knuckle,...if a stock look is what your after, then your going to have to play with the motor mounts, some shimming might help, loosen the box to see if you can "move" it some, or break out the dremel, and elongate the holes to move the box over, or remove and "dimple" the header tube, I've used a peice of oak dowel to place on the offending tube, then hammered the oak, puts a nice "dimple" in the tube without busting up the coating, do this with the header removed and supported
Where do you buy this Borsen Joint?
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to make it work.
