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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 3XCHARM] #54184
03/15/08 09:08 PM
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I am picky there is nothing wrong with the spindles that would cause them not to work but there is a few things that I don't like about them. The spindle is not centered exactly, that will cause the bearing seal to be off center. The tie rod holes are not drilled exactly in the center of their bosses. So with that said the spindles are fine to use I just like everything to be right.

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I am picky there is nothing wrong with the spindles that would cause them not to work but there is a few things that I don't like about them. The spindle is not centered exactly, that will cause the bearing seal to be off center. The tie rod holes are not drilled exactly in the center of their bosses. So with that said the spindles are fine to use I just like everything to be right.




OIC I am the same way when it comes to things like that.


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: Cheeto] #54186
03/19/08 02:21 PM
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4.5 pattern rotors: Early Dakota 2wds used this bolt pattern and had the larger outer bearing.




Think I could use that technique as a pattern for doing a 5 lug swap on a 2003 Dakota?

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4.5 pattern rotors: Early Dakota 2wds used this bolt pattern and had the larger outer bearing.




Think I could use that technique as a pattern for doing a 5 lug swap on a 2003 Dakota?




No, your 2003 uses a sealed hub and the older stuff is typical inner and outer bearings on a spindle shaft.


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #54188
03/20/08 11:38 AM
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4.5 pattern rotors: Early Dakota 2wds used this bolt pattern and had the larger outer bearing.




Think I could use that technique as a pattern for doing a 5 lug swap on a 2003 Dakota?




No, your 2003 uses a sealed hub and the older stuff is typical inner and outer bearings on a spindle shaft.




Damn. Any way around that?

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Not sure, isnt yours 5 bolt anyways? I'm not sure what the pattern is though....

You *MIGHT* be able to have the rotors and hub redrilled.


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #54190
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Not sure, isnt yours 5 bolt anyways? I'm not sure what the pattern is though....

You *MIGHT* be able to have the rotors and hub redrilled.




Nope, they ran 6 lug from 92-04.

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Just a quick update, since Ive put a about a hundred miles on my truck with the spindle swap it settled about an inch. It now sits at 12 1/2" from hub to fender lip. It will rub slightly now on inner fender when turning through a dip in the road. Normal driving even at freeway speeds no rubbing at all. I just wanted to let everyone know that this ended up being closer to a 5" drop on my truck. Im not concerened with the rubbing myself because I planned on removeing the inner fenders anyway. Wheel backspace will play a part in this also. If your just going with the spindle swap without the pocketed control arms then you should be fine.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: ramblebee] #54192
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Thanks for the update---Did you get an alignment? Any issues?


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #54193
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I have all of suspension took apart media blasted and new poly bushings put bacck innew ball joints outer tie rods. I am just now waiting for Eric at MId America Customs for my lower control arms. Oh we talked on here about the differences in the 87-90 and the 90-96 Dak spindles. The difference is that the 87-90 will not accomodate the ram tie rod and the 90-96 will so I ended up having my tie rod(87-90) holes machined out for my tie rod plus I also had them macchined so that the tie rod would go in from the top.
RambleBee glad to hear that your truck has dropped 5" I hope mine does the same. It should I am going the same route as you.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #54194
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Thanks for the update---Did you get an alignment? Any issues?


Its been aligned and everything has been fine. No bumpsteer at all, you can let go of the wheel at any speed and it will stay right where you have it pointed. Ive read that some people have had quality issues with the Chassis Tech spindles but mine were ok. Maybe I got lucky. I had to run a tap through the threads in the dust shield mounting holes to clean up the threads but other than that they were fine.

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I have all of suspension took apart media blasted and new poly bushings put bacck innew ball joints outer tie rods. I am just now waiting for Eric at MId America Customs for my lower control arms. Oh we talked on here about the differences in the 87-90 and the 90-96 Dak spindles. The difference is that the 87-90 will not accomodate the ram tie rod and the 90-96 will so I ended up having my tie rod(87-90) holes machined out for my tie rod plus I also had them macchined so that the tie rod would go in from the top.
RambleBee glad to hear that your truck has dropped 5" I hope mine does the same. It should I am going the same route as you.


Now about the 87-90 spindles, I did a little checking on tie rod end taper deminsions. Earlier in the thread it was dicovered that there was a tierod end change on the Ram trucks in 79. I found that the 87-90 Dakota taper is the same as 72-78 Ram. So what this should mean is that you can use 87-90 Dak spindles on 72-78 Rams and use 91-96 Dak spindles on 79-93 Rams and not have to change outer tierod ends. If I had known this I would have bought the 87-90 spindles. If the only difference is the taper deminsions I wouldnt have had to mess with finding the larger tierod ends.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: ramblebee] #54196
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I want my truck, low, but maybe not as low as yours. I juts did the rear axle flip this past weekend, and it looks great. I would like the front end to be even with it. I have the 91+ dakota drop spindles and hope to install them in about a week. I am assumind that I will need a different tie rod adjusting sleeve, the longer C body one, is that correct?

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: turbododgepirate] #54197
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Im not sure what year truck you are working on, if its 79-93 you should be able to use your stock tierod ends with the 91-96 Dak spindles. The Dak steering arm is shorter than the Ram so you may still need to use the longer C-body adjusting sleeve. I used the 91-96 spindles on my 73.The van ends I used carry the same part # as 79-93 Ram. From what I learned while doing my truck, use 87-90 Dak spindles for 72-78 Rams and 91-96 Dak spindles on 79-93 Rams this should allow you to use the stock tierod ends. You can use either spindle on any truck its just a matter of finding the right combination of parts.I did a quick summary of parts earlier in the thread. If your truck has the larger inner wheel bearing(84-up) then that makes it that much easier.
Let me know if you need help. Im always lurking on here.

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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: ramblebee] #54198
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Ramblebee, your truck looks SWEET!!!! What is your wheel and tire size? That truck sits perfect!

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: dodgeram440] #54199
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Ramblebee, your truck looks SWEET!!!! What is your wheel and tire size? That truck sits perfect!


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: ramblebee] #54200
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Your truck is killer looking, nice job!


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: Robbins] #54201
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Now if it was a stepside that would be killer.

Great looking ride.


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: panzerray] #54202
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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: ramblebee] #54203
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Im not sure what year truck you are working on, if its 79-93 you should be able to use your stock tierod ends with the 91-96 Dak spindles. The Dak steering arm is shorter than the Ram so you may still need to use the longer C-body adjusting sleeve. I used the 91-96 spindles on my 73.The van ends I used carry the same part # as 79-93 Ram. From what I learned while doing my truck, use 87-90 Dak spindles for 72-78 Rams and 91-96 Dak spindles on 79-93 Rams this should allow you to use the stock tierod ends. You can use either spindle on any truck its just a matter of finding the right combination of parts.I did a quick summary of parts earlier in the thread. If your truck has the larger inner wheel bearing(84-up) then that makes it that much easier.
Let me know if you need help. Im always lurking on here.




Sorry, yes, it is a 1985 D100. So what should I ask for at the parts store for the adjusting sleeve? I don't know what a C body is

Do you know if there are any good springs out there that will lower the truck about 2" ? I think the dakota spindles plus a 2" spring drop would be perfect for what I want.

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