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Chrome ign. box failure #532583
11/21/09 12:22 PM 11/21/09 12:22 PM
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I recently had a 534 chrome ign. box (ECU) quit on me. I put an O'Reilly box on it to get home (I always carry a spare).
I can't afford to go MSD right now, so anyone know of a place to get a good deal on these boxes?
What abou the FBO boxes? Will they interchange?

Last edited by Madness; 11/21/09 12:26 PM.
Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Madness] #532584
11/21/09 02:06 PM 11/21/09 02:06 PM
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You won't pick up anything changing over to MSD..however you can get the chrome box at any of the mail order places and Mancini Racing.

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Chris2581] #532585
11/21/09 02:10 PM 11/21/09 02:10 PM
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Get another Chrome, or just a good, standard/ blue streak box. forget the FBO
Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Chris2581] #532586
11/21/09 04:12 PM 11/21/09 04:12 PM
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You won't pick up anything changing over to MSD..however you can get the chrome box at any of the mail order places and Mancini Racing.



You will pick up some reliability. My car used to use orange and chrome boxes like gasoline. Oriellys boxes never gave me any trouble.

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Bad340fish] #532587
11/21/09 07:00 PM 11/21/09 07:00 PM
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I've got orange,chrome and gold boxes that are over 25 years old that still work great.

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Chris2581] #532588
11/21/09 07:30 PM 11/21/09 07:30 PM
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I've got orange,chrome and gold boxes that are over 25 years old that still work great.


Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: MoparforLife] #532589
11/21/09 07:32 PM 11/21/09 07:32 PM
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25 years ago alot of things were made better. I wondered if something was wrong with my car but the orielly box lasted a long time, even ran fine with nitrous. I am sure the box is still fine but I won't be useing it this time around.

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Chris2581] #532590
11/21/09 08:38 PM 11/21/09 08:38 PM
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I've got orange,chrome and gold boxes that are over 25 years old that still work great.



I had orange boxes 25 years ago too, they never failed.
It seems to ME that the past 10 years have brought boxes sourced from a different supplier, because I've had a half dozen orange boxes fail now.
I've never had a chrome box fail on one of my vehicles though....

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: ademon] #532591
11/22/09 01:31 PM 11/22/09 01:31 PM
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Get another Chrome, or just a good, standard/ blue streak box. forget the FBO


Forgot the FBO box? And why would he do that? Did you ever tried it (A688) and/or do you know facts and tests of A688 VS those china chrome and standard boxes?
I have sold lots of those A688 kits and use it with both of my cars...I and my clients have zero problems with them and spark is so bright and strong that you may weld with it

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #532592
11/22/09 04:51 PM 11/22/09 04:51 PM
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The last two chrome boxes I bought failed with very few miles. My spare from advance has been going for years

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Georg] #532593
11/22/09 04:57 PM 11/22/09 04:57 PM
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What are the facts and tests results exactly ? lets say over a system like i have on my 68 RR its a Mopar performance chrome ecu, with a msd .8 ohm HD ballast, and a blaster II coil.

Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: ademon] #532594
11/24/09 11:05 AM 11/24/09 11:05 AM
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I'm wondering how many chrome box failures might be attributed to a mis-match with the resistor?
Opinions seem to be mixed on the FBO boxes. Can you purchase just the box & replace the chrome ECU with it. I guess a call to them would get an answer, by I would rather be armed with info from this site before shopping.
Good info on the O'Reilly box, btw. I was afraid it wouldn't put out the energy of the chrome box.
Thanks.
Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: tigger1] #532595
11/24/09 06:08 PM 11/24/09 06:08 PM
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The last two chrome boxes I bought failed with very few miles. My spare from advance has been going for years



Are they MP chrome boxes, cause I have seen a ton of imitations....

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Madness] #532596
11/24/09 06:09 PM 11/24/09 06:09 PM
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Opinions seem to be mixed on the FBO boxes.



I just bought one for my Jensen. I've never tried one before, but I trust Don.... I'll see what I think this spring....

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #532597
11/24/09 06:26 PM 11/24/09 06:26 PM
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Buy a Standard Motor Products LX101 box (not an LX101T). Excellent box, good to 8500 rpm. I'd bet $100 this is what a MP chrome box is.


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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Chris2581] #532598
11/24/09 10:32 PM 11/24/09 10:32 PM
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You won't pick up anything changing over to MSD..however you can get the chrome box at any of the mail order places and Mancini Racing.



There are a lot of features with aftermarket ignitions that the Chrysler stuff does not have. I can't believe I'm reading this in the race section. I didn't know there were any serious racers still using that old stuff.
Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: BobR] #532599
11/25/09 01:28 AM 11/25/09 01:28 AM
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Why change it if it works??

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: Chris2581] #532600
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Why change it if it works??



Start retards, rev limiters, 2 step limiters, timing curves, higher output, better performance in many cases...should I go on?
Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: BobR] #532601
11/25/09 10:58 AM 11/25/09 10:58 AM
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My car starts fine.

I don't need a rev limiter.

2 step..why?? Bring it up and let it fly.Just more electronic gizmos that take away fom the driver/car deal IMO.

Timing curve..no problem with what I use.It works so why change it??

Higher output?? Better performance?? Against a gold box?? I'll claim I'm from Missouri.

I understand your points,but don't see the advantage.

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Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: ademon] #532602
11/25/09 11:39 PM 11/25/09 11:39 PM
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Get another Chrome, or just a good, standard/ blue streak box. forget the FBO



just curious why not the fbo box???
Re: Chrome ign. box failure [Re: J_GAMALA] #532603
11/26/09 12:22 AM 11/26/09 12:22 AM
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Get another Chrome, or just a good, standard/ blue streak box. forget the FBO



just curious why not the fbo box???



I just bought the FBO setup for my Jensen, I wouldn't have even considered a blue streak box, but that's just me....

I would like to hear why not an FBO box too...

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