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Intake porting? #527361
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How much hp is a typical intake port job worth? Motor will be a 500ci-ish pump gas stroker w/ MCH CNC standard port eppy RPMs. I'n hoping for somewhere around 600hp.

I'm curious if it would be worth it to have my Victor ported by a profesional.

Thanks.

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On that engine I'd say around 20HP.


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On that engine I'd say around 20HP.


so how much is my 500 ish pump gas ported -1 motor gonna make? ...looking like Dec4th I'll be droppin it off.Got business on the 5th in Hollywood.

Re: Intake porting? [Re: Brian Hafliger] #527364
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On that engine I'd say around 20HP.




What would it do for our B1? The heads are coming soon as we get them pulled.

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It all depends on how bad the intake is before porting....!
If an intake is poor OOTB you can really look like a porting HERO by making more than that but reality if the intake is really good OOTB and you pick up 10HP you look like a HERO's backside...LOL!
The higher HP the engine the larger the gain (usually) because your working on a larger scale.

I've seen upwards of 35HP gain with Indy's 4500 intake when modified. That was on a 700Hp engine.


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How much would it typically cost to have a Victor intake ported? I would assume it's pretty time consuming.

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I have a set of B1s coming from Koffels. Scott said it's not worth the money to get carried away unless you want every last HP. My motor's pretty big in a fairly light car and I only want to run around 8.60 so they're just going to do a basic clean up and port match.


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Mopower: plenum and runner porting can be time consuming but that intake is a nice OOTB casting and is not too bad.
SG66: Scott's right, the B1 intake is nice OOTB and I usually only port the runner exits and some mild blending at the plenum.


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I have a set of B1s coming from Koffels. Scott said it's not worth the money to get carried away unless you want every last HP. My motor's pretty big in a fairly light car and I only want to run around 8.60 so they're just going to bo a basic clean up and port match.






Yeh,we'll probably leave it as is,just port matched to our cnc heads. I just can't leave anything alone.

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Mopower: plenum and runner porting can be time consuming but that intake is a nice OOTB casting and is not too bad.
SG66: Scott's right, the B1 intake is nice OOTB and I usually only port the runner exits and some mild blending at the plenum.




Thanks Brian.

I'll probably just port match it my self and blend the runners

I have noticed though if I place a carb gasket on top of my Victor's carb flange, there is quite a bit of material to the inside of it. Would it be wise to remove these "bumps" to open up the plenum a little?

Maybe I should post a picture...

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eeeewwwwweeeee...I've seen that before...LOL!

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I think that's a Victor 383. I need to start titling all my pictures.

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You did exactly what I was thinking about. There's quite a bit of "webbing" for lack of a better word, that sticks out into the plenum.

Did it pick up any with that work you did?

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Did it pick up any with that work you did?




I would say it did although it was never tested before. That's a
fairly standard modification to the Mopar Victor series intakes.
Like doing a valve job on new heads before they are used.

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Did it pick up any with that work you did?



FWIW, I did the same mod to a 440 Victor which showed about 8-10 HP increase on the dyno at higher RPM compared to an out-of-the-box one.

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Good deal guys. Thanks again for the input. This will be my first big block build, so I'm trying to pick up any pointers I can get.

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I did an old M1 manifold on a 540ci.street motor and it made 654hp and 704lbs torque on the dyno. It had fully ported closed chambered eddy's. I think you can gain 35+ horse with the manifold ported. But it all depends on what cam u are runnig. The 540 was a full roller with cross bolted mains. We tested three manifolds and all three were in the 630+ range. M1, Wiend Tunnel Ram and a 6-Pack. If you have any questions feel free to give me a call. 1-712-790-6106 and ask for jason(Shotties Porting Service).

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I did an old M1 manifold on a 540ci.street motor and it made 654hp and 704lbs torque on the dyno. It had fully ported closed chambered eddy's. I think you can gain 35+ horse with the manifold ported. But it all depends on what cam u are runnig. The 540 was a full roller with cross bolted mains. We tested three manifolds and all three were in the 630+ range. M1, Wiend Tunnel Ram and a 6-Pack. If you have any questions feel free to give me a call. 1-712-790-6106 and ask for jason(Shotties Porting Service).




i was wondering what the cam would play into, on porting the intake. with the cam i run, we believe it must have more reversion than others. so would porting the intake help more or less? i run indy -3 with -1 heads cnc ported to 325

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