Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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I just did an up grade to a SB moroso electric pump and taurus electric fan 4500CFM and the new Gm 140 amp altenator. one wire Problem is at idle , the alt. is not putting out enough power to keep the fan and pump up to speed. lights are real dim at idle. when the RPMS go up, the amp gauge shows charging.. At crusing speed , the needle is almost pinned to the right.. That is not right ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tsk.gif) ... Any solutions for this problem ?? I also ran a 4 gauge wire from the alt to the starter relay pos. post. people say that this is the way to run the wire ..other wise it could melt down the wires to the amp gauge. if i did that I have now amp gauge reading now.. that is normal. after that I got a another alt. pully 1/8" diameter smaller >>> that put the needle in the middle of the amp gauge BUT.......... Lights were still dim and the electical devices were running slow. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) What can be done to the alt. to get it to put out more at Idle speed???? ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif) I do not want to turn up the idle. Engine runs perfect where it is. any advice appreciated !! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bow.gif) Thanks in advance ! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif)
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Re: Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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11/16/09 12:04 AM
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I had that same problem when I ran the 5" Moroso crank pulley, I went to the bigger March pulley(around 7" I think) and now it charges at idle.
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Re: Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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the only way to get the alt to put out more at an idle is to increase the speed. A bigger pully on the crank will increase the speed of the alt. Also what regulator are you using?? THe Mopar perf blue on is good and lets it charge at 13.5 volts even at an idle
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Re: Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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Yes .. forgot to mention ... I installed a aluminum pulley also underdrived. Smaller. Billet.
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Re: Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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GM alt. with one aire.. On# # 6 gauge wire from alt to starter relay only... this by passes the alt gauge in the dash so it won't burn the wires up. No other stock alt. wires are used.. NO Regulator. the alt. is internally regulated.
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Re: Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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No .. everything is new .. I did install another smaller pully on the alt. but it may not be small enough in diameter.It appeared to be the same by appearance but was a fraction smaller. It was just a tad bit smaller the the original one. I don't think It made much of a difference. May have to try another one smaller .
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Re: Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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it's probably that power hog of a fan from the taurus causing the problem. for cars with a heavy electrical demand i just go directly to the 200 amp alternator. i've burned up so many GM 140's that i have a pile of cores now.
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Re: Upgrade to 140 amp ALT. >> Dim lights at Idle
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Update >>>>>>>>>> today I got another alt. pulley that is 2.5" in diameter. The Previous pulley was 2.75. Installed the smaller pulley and I seen a little improvement ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif) in the charging. Lights are still dim at idle though but better. ..... I guess I'll have to get a larger diameter crank pulley or turn the idle up some. or just live with it. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frowwn.gif) oh well !! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif)
65 DART GT RAGTOP mopars "AWESOME" 360 magnum stoker 402 Engine !!!!!!! ROCKS !!!!!!!!!!
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