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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: mopars_1] #519505
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it just makes me think,,with all the trouble with quarters, do you think you had something out of line? or not braced up? enough? that's alot of cutting.. welding?? Am i the only one thinking this?? looks great though!!! and yes and i wont be buying those also,, did you see the GOLD challenger resto?/

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=1

he had problems also with goodmark 1/4's, the amd seam to fit nicer, cant wait for there front fenders they are working on..

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: DetMatt] #519506
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Thanks for checkin' it out DetMatt! Every comment is kind of a booster to keep me moving on this. I really had no idea how big of a project this would turn out to be but I'm glad I took it on. I've learned tons along the way and still learn something every time I look at it!
Keep us posted on your projects as well. Take care-Jake

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it just makes me think,,with all the trouble with quarters, do you think you had something out of line? or not braced up? enough? that's alot of cutting.. welding?? Am i the only one thinking this?? looks great though!!! and yes and i wont be buying those also,, did you see the GOLD challenger resto?/

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=1

he had problems also with goodmark 1/4's, the amd seam to fit nicer, cant wait for there front fenders they are working on..



I sure did do a lot of measuring before and during on the quarter project and the overall placement is good but the quarters were simply not the right shape. I'm having to re do some of my work simply because of my lack of experience causing me to not get it quite right the first time. The quarter to lid gaps were very wavy and couldn't possibly have been due to improper placement/support during the install. These things were simply stamped wrong and if I had it to do over, I'd have waited for the AMD or just restored the original panels and put them back on. Every edge on the Goodmark panels was either wavy or not sharp enough or, most of the time, both.
Yes I have been watching the gold one too. That thing is really coming along nice! They sure do make it look easy sometimes!
Thanks for the interest and comments. It keeps me on my toes and everyone's perspective is of importance to me as sometimes I simply might not have considered in that way. Thanks-Jake

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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519508
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Oh Jakey

are you working on the car or are youuuu sleeping? Sleeping is the enemy with the amount of things I have to do around here I don't know whether to or or I must be

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519509
03/23/10 04:46 PM
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These are some great posts. You have given me some good ideas as to how I may need to stretch my Goodfart quarter panels. The deck filler I bought was from AMD and they don't nearly match quarter panels the way I had hoped. I may have to stretch everything like you did to massage them into place.

Keep up the good work and I will be watching to learn more from your saga.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: ] #519510
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are you working on the car or are youuuu sleeping? Sleeping is the enemy with the amount of things I have to do around here I don't know whether to or or I must be




Ok, ya got me! I went up to the house and took a nap right after I posted on your thread! I did do some work but it was really just more touching up the lines on the drivers trunk gaps.
I'll hopefully be getting back on it this weekend. I'm trying to keep a decent pace but business has had most of my time lately.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: rhamson] #519511
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These are some great posts. You have given me some good ideas as to how I may need to stretch my Goodfart quarter panels. The deck filler I bought was from AMD and they don't nearly match quarter panels the way I had hoped. I may have to stretch everything like you did to massage them into place.

Keep up the good work and I will be watching to learn more from your saga.




Glad you're able to get something from my project. This really is a great place to get info and with all the things I've learned here I'm glad I can give some back.
As for the deck filler, I did try to just work the ends a little at first but soon reallized that the length and contour on the ends was just too far off. When I finally decided to just whack a couple inches off the ends it really just came together easy from there. Good luck with yours and keep us posted.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519512
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Jake - Where you hiding?? You got that thing done yet??

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: 68SportSatvert] #519513
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Jake - Where you hiding?? You got that thing done yet??



He had a heart attck after the electric bill showed up from running the welder!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: JS29R0B] #519514
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Great work Jake... It is very rewarding to see hard work pay off and you sure have dedicated enough of it. I love seeing Mopars getting rescued and brought back to life. I have been there with you on the panel tear down and replacement on my cuda and truly understand the amount of time you have invested. I have countless hours invested and could never recover it by selling the car.

We installed an aftermarket (Sherman) quarter on our challenger and didn't have any fit issues. Maybe we got lucky. The AMD panels fit good too, and all the aftermarket parts really are much better than the old quarter skins that we used to have to work with.

I can't wait to see the finished product. A++++


Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: E-Body Products] #519515
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WOW, Jake!! You've made great progress. The last time I looked in was when there was only 4 pages here. Looking forward to seeing it complete. Your project and others like it are what inspires me to keep going on mine

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: Scott Carl] #519516
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What happened to Jake? Last post was in April.


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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: Scotts72Rallye] #519517
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Sorry folks, business has been taking up a whole bunch of my time. I'm not goofing off, just busy. Hopefully within a couple of weeks I'll get something done on her. I'm really missing working on her and she's very close to going to priming and blocking so it's driving me nuts but I gotta take care of the business stuff when it needs me or, well, you know. Thanks for thinking about me and hopefully I'll be back here with bloody knuckles soon!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519518
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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: Scotts72Rallye] #519519
06/21/10 11:41 PM
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I'm with ya'... Work has just been a blitz lately, averaging 70 hours a week for the last 6 weeks. Finally got to make some headway on her on Saturday.


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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: 67Charger] #519520
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What happened to this thread...at the rate Jake was going it should be done by now

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: JamaicaBlue] #519521
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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: Dave Watt] #519522
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Hey Folks! It won't be long now and I'll be back on her. I spoke with Jeff (jsbrown) just last night and should be seeing the rear valance from AMD in a month or two and until then I'm going to finish all the little welding, patching and grinding needed to get the jams, engine bay and underneath in epoxy.
This summer was a really busy one with the business and now I should have a little more time like last winter to get some work done on the car. It's still in the same condition it was last time I posted so those of you watching to see how one guy is doing it didn't miss anything. The rest of you, keep the feedback and constructive criticism coming as I get the ball rolling again. It always helps.

Thanks All,
Jake

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519523
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Glad to see you back, you have left a few people in with-drawls. Good luck with the rest of the build.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519524
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Ok, I really don't see myself having the time to really get into the body again until after Thanksgiving as the business is still a " full time job". So, I figured I'd get the power plant started. I've gone through lots of back and forth on correct and FUN and I've finally come to the conclusion that I'm really doing this for me and plan to keep this car 'till I die! Screw correct! I'm not going to be shaving door handles and what not but I do think some extra power and handling upgrades are in order. After all, it's 2010 and this is not a #'s car anyway! I do plan to keep the original paint scheme and not totally screw up the original guys thoughts on this car but I do feel that some upgrades are in order.
That being said, I've decided on building a 496" stroker motor out of the 383 hp motor I have. I did quite a bit of research on all of the various vendors who make the rotating assemblies and decided, after multiple and lengthy conversations with Kim at 440 Source, to go ahead with the big block Chrysler guys over there. I found out that they were recently bought out and don't actually do any work on the parts any more but after talking with Kim extensively I still feel that with the correct planning and communication with my machinist, this should all turn out to be a fun and satisfying project.
My goal is to build a motor in the 600 to 700 hp range that will be streetable and run on pump gas. I'm no genious when it comes to engines. Well, let me just say that I've really never been succesful on building a high horsepower motor that I could really be proud of. I feel that along with all of the other things I'm learning about this project, I should also be able to walk-the-walk on the performance side as well.
After much reading and watching the How To Super Tune video from Wayne Smothers, I now have enough knowledge to know when to ask questions!
Again, this is for your pleasure only. Don't consider the things that I do to be necessarily the right thing but more the way I chose to do them.

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