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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: Skeez] #519485
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Very nicely done I can't wait to see this when it's finished



Thanks Skeez, I figure probably still another year or two 'till completion! Hopefully paint and back on it's feet by mid Summer.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: joewhite440] #519486
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Hope this is what you need. I scanned it from a picture of a 71 I did a while back. Hope this helps.
Exceptional work on the car Jake.

Joe Sr



Excellent! That's what I was hoping it looked like as I have just enough metal left on one side so I don't have to go find one to measure from. Thanks Joe!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: VITC_GTX] #519487
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Very nicely done I can't wait to see this when it's finished




And at the rate he is going it will be done soon!!!!! Great job



Thanks Van! And if what you mean by soon is a year or two, you're hopefully right!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: 3eighty3] #519488
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I've also got a pic of the corner of the firewall/windshield for comparison:
Thanks Thomas, all pictures help. I think I've got it now.
Awesome car you've got there! You've done alot of the things I plan to do so being that you're ahead of me, I'll be able too see how it works out before I even do it!
Thanks again-Jake



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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: Quapman] #519489
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Holy schmomboly!

Man, you sure this is your first crack at a major metalworking project?

Amazingly impressive.




Thanks Steve! It is definately my first car project this extensive. Prior to this I've done some playing around and painted a couple cars but never really had the chance to do it the right way. I've done alot of welding in the past though.
Thanks for watching and as always, the comments are a great help.
Jake

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519490
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You should start a new thread that gets a big sticky... MIG Welding 101!

I would like to learn how to use my dern welder!... especially on sheetmetal... without blowing thru it.

You are skilled for sure!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: camdog440] #519491
01/30/10 10:05 AM
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wow,love it,i would love to see your car some day,ive got a 222665 but with 4speed,and its red.otherwise pretty similar with ac and vinyl top.hej hej hej,about the top,gatorgrain is so cool,but are you going to use red interior with it?is the gg top blackish or greenish? hmm

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: cuda-sweden] #519492
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Ive been around Moparts for several years and this has got to be one of the best documented restoration threads I have seen. And while this may be your first stab at a project this extensive, you are clearly not a beginner (man I wish I had 1/2 your skills!). Exceptional work, and I look forward to watching your progress!


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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519493
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Am I the only one who gets up early on a Saturday morning just to stare at the car and make engine noises with my mouth? And yes, it counts if you're doin' it in your head!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: TonyS451] #519494
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Ive been around Moparts for several years and this has got to be one of the best documented restoration threads I have seen. And while this may be your first stab at a project this extensive, you are clearly not a beginner (man I wish I had 1/2 your skills!). Exceptional work, and I look forward to watching your progress!




Thank you very much! I really enjoy this site a bunch. You guys keep me going and I've never learned more about this stuff than I have by watching everyone here do their thing.-Jake

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519495
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Am I the only one who gets up early on a Saturday morning just to stare at the car and make engine noises with my mouth? And yes, it counts if you're doin' it in your head!




Not by a long shot.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: ] #519496
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Am I the only one who gets up early on a Saturday morning just to stare at the car and make engine noises with my mouth? And yes, it counts if you're doin' it in your head!




Not by a long shot.



Sweet! I feel better!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519497
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Am I the only one who gets up early on a Saturday morning just to stare at the car and make engine noises with my mouth? And yes, it counts if you're doin' it in your head!




Not by a long shot.



Sweet! I feel better!


Count me in on any day of the week, just have more time on most Saturdays


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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519498
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Ok, I haven't really had much time lately to work on her but here's where I'm at. I wasn't thrilled with the results on this but I don't feel there's going to ever be a problem with the way it came out. I just for some reason didn't quite have the results I wanted. The other side should be a lot better now that I know what to do. Like I've said, this is my first whack at a project like this and I'm learning as I go.
So I seem to have put these in here in reverse order but If you start with the last pic and work up, it'll make more sense.
Another after glaze and blocking.


After glaze and blocking. It came out really good.


Another shot of the void.


After all that adjusting and welding, I had a bit of a void. I measured a max depth of a little less than an 1/8 inch. I probably didn't really need to but I used fiber hair filler here before hitting it with glaze just to make sure I wouldn't have problems in the future.



All ground smooth and ready to start with the filler work. There's a small spot here that I blew through with the grinder but I welded it shut and ground it smooth again.


All welded in and ready for grinding.


I cut a strip of metal to weld in so I wouldn't have to deal with lead or the possibility of filler cracking and falling out in the future. Here it is tacked in place ready for welding.


Another shot.


I must have been sleeping when I welded this spot together 'cause my elevations weren't quite right and I didn't notice 'till now. So, here we go again with sectioning, tweaking and welding it all back together.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519499
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He is probably going to show us a painted car next.

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: ] #519501
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Thanks for the encouragement guys! I've been busy with my daughter building her solar system diorama. It took a little longer than expected since I had to teach her how to calculate the required resistance to keep from blowing up the stars (LEDs) and it can also be a little tricky to get an 8 year old to not burn daddy while he's holding wires for her to solder!
Anyway, Momma says I can play with my toys today so I'm going back after the trunk gaps. I've done quite a bit with them but I'm not very happy yet so I'll be sectioning and welding pretty much all day. I'll try to have something up here by the end of the weekend.
Thanks again guys-Jake

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He is probably going to show us a painted car next.




Not quite a painted car yet, I'm pretty sure even though you're building a car, chassis and all, you're gonna beat me to the road! Nice work!

So on to what I spent my Saturday doing. I wasn't totally satisfied wuth the trunk gaps after my first attempt so I figured I'd better get 'em straight or I'll always know I should've!

So, I cut the quarter again. This time I cut the gutter to light panel as well where I just kind of tried to fudge that on try 1, that'll teach me!
It looks really jacked here but that's just 'cause the back of the quarter popped over from the gutter when I cut it.



More of bird's eye view.


Gettin' closer. I also should mention that I've had to use a port-a-power quite a bit to get the quarter and gutter up to where they belong.


And another shot. It sure can be deceiving to look at with the welds and different colors all over the place. It takes a straight edge and a piece of string to see that it really is straight.

And here I used a piece of filler rod welded to the deck lid to get a nice tight gap. It really came out nice and I'm very happy I did it over again. BUT, I did, as us newbies will, screw up at this point. I had read that it's ok to weld up to an inch at a time without having to worry about warpage so I figured on the heavy edge welding a piece of filler was the place to try this. Not so good. I "oil canned" my brand new deck lid. I've never really done much with shrinking metal before and was really not sure how to do it especially since I couldn't get to the back side with a dolly. I tried using the stud gun for heat and then hitting it with compressed air and took most of the stretch out but it still was kind of flimsy and now had little dents all over from the stud gun. Then I figured maybe just hit it in the low spots with a bit of mig weld and air to rapid cool it. Bingo! Don't know if that's the normal way but it worked for me and made it so I could sleep that night! Just have to finish pulling the little dents out and shopuld be ready to move to the other side.


The stud gun dents. Nothing to worry about compared to the oil canning!


Need to do a little dolly work along the edge to smooth out the spots where the trunk lid edge sits a little low but it really was starting to look like I had hoped it would.


Another angle.


And the cut in the corner welded up. I also used a piece of filler rod here to fill the gap.


Ok, I gotta run for now but I have more pics of this portion of the project to show ya when I get back. Thanks for checkin' it out!

Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: jake71] #519503
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you do great work jake I dont think Ill be buying goodmark quarters anytime soon.. lol


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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust [Re: mopars_1] #519504
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I'm going to have to spend some time going through this thread from the begining, it looks like you are doing some great work. I've got a similar restoration going on my `68 Road Runner and have a `70 A66 Challenger project after that.
Good stuff brother, save them don't crush them!.


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