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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust
[Re: ridenlow12]
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11/10/09 02:34 PM
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jrwoodjoe
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Great pics showing the progress. WOW, you are a brave man. I don't think I could have tackled that but it looks like you are doing a FANTASTIC job with it. Looking forward to more pics.  Joe
65 Barracuda
70 Challenger
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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust
[Re: Gavin]
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11/10/09 03:10 PM
11/10/09 03:10 PM
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kb73rr
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You're doing an amazing job! You are definitely saving one that many people would consider too far gone. So much the better when you're done.
I have one question. Hopefully it won't open up a can of worms. Are you using the POR15 self-etching primer (spray) or the brush on stuff?
I had a lot of sheet metal work done on my car including a bunch of rust repair fabrications just like you're doing. The guy who did the work was well regarded pro with about 20 years experience. He does some very high dollar cars including a number of Autorama show winners. Every last millimeter of bare metal got cleaned with skotchbrite, rinsed and wiped, then coated with SEM self-etching primer. The skotchbrite and rinse had to be done within minutes of spraying the primer. He said it was the only way to guarantee it wouldn't rust. Five years later and none of the work he did shows any indications of rust.
I did my front and back bumper mounts/supports myself. I used POR15. I did the front ones before I learned about the SEM, and didn't use it. I did the back the same way he did with the scotchbrite, rinse and SEM before the POR. That was also 5 years ago, and the car has never been caught in anything worse than a light drizzle since. The back still looks 100% perfect, the front is showing a little rust. That just my personal experience. Your results may vary ha ha ha.
Anyhow - here is a big pat on the back for your work and thanks for your time posting it!
Last edited by kb73rr; 11/10/09 06:56 PM.
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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust
[Re: kb73rr]
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11/10/09 07:07 PM
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Loveland Colorado
jake71
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You're doing an amazing job! You are definitely saving one that many people would consider too far gone. So much the better when you're done.
I have one question. Hopefully it won't open up a can of worms. Are you using the POR15 self-etching primer (spray) or the brush on stuff?
I had a lot of sheet metal work done on my car including a bunch of rust repair fabrications just like you're doing. The guy who did the work was well regarded pro with about 20 years experience. He does some very high dollar cars including a number of Autorama show winners. Every last millimeter of bare metal got cleaned with skotchbrite, rinsed and wiped, then coated with SEM self-etching primer. The skotchbrite and rinse had to be done within minutes of spraying the primer. He said it was the only way to guarantee it wouldn't rust. Five years later and none of the work he did shows any indications of rust.
I did my front and back bumper mounts/supports myself. I used POR15. I did the front ones before I learned about the SEM, and didn't use it. I did the back the same way he did with the scotchbrite, rinse and SEM before the POR. That was also 5 years ago, and the car has never been caught in anything worse than a light drizzle since. The back still looks 100% perfect, the front is showing a little rust. That just my personal experience. Your results may vary ha ha ha.
Anyhow - here is a big pat on the back for your work and thanks for your time posting it!
Thank you for the compliment. It was pretty far gone but they're getting harder to find, especially these options, and I figure it will be well worth the experience. At least I didn't just pay someone to do it all for me right? I know some stuff is out of people's scope but I always admire someone doing what they can on their own car.
As for the POR15, I did it like the directions said. They have their metal prep that you spray on and rinse off. That stuff has a pretty harsh reaction with bare metal. It smells like rust converter and it really seems to etch the metal pretty well. I'm going to scuff all that I can reach before any sprayables go on and then the entire thing is getting a couple coats of direct to metal epoxy primer. I hope that this is the right thing to do. The guy at my local paint supply house seems to think I will never have any problems. Hope he's right!
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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust
[Re: Gavin]
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11/10/09 07:10 PM
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Keep 'em coming, can't have too many pictures!! 
Fabulous work, well done
Thank you very much. It means alot coming from any admirer but after seeing your work I'm proud of the compliment. Great metal work!
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Re: Jake's Challenger/Rust
[Re: rockerbob]
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11/10/09 07:12 PM
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jake71
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I've got a few of these. Let me know if it's too much and I'll back off a bit.
You are doing a great job. Please keep the pic's comming.  Thanks so much!
Thank you. I'm happy you are enjoying it, kinda feels like my own little TV show!
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Keep'em comming. This is very good diy information to have and not have to pay for 
