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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: 4404dart] #518642
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There are a few leaf spring cars running 7s in the 1/4 and 4.80s in the 1/8, so it can be done. but the 60ft decided this race.

Monte




Monte do you think if you were doing a leaf spring car, you would do the extra fab work for installing the longer 25 inch front segment chevy spring? Or does it really matter, and the shocks(good ones) are the answer?
Thanks, Dave.


Most of the time, the springs are relocated inside the frame rail, so the mounts for the longer spring would be easy and yes, I would do it. Shocks are a critical element. We have $2500 worth of shocks on our "stock suspension, drag radial" car. And I say it all the time, but will say it again, the trickest rear suspension in the world is useless, if the front won't work. Proper spring rate and good shocks are imperative to making these type cars work.

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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: Monte_Smith] #518643
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First off, he said "nitrous car". The fastest nitrous radial car in the country, be it Ford, Chevy, whatever, runs in the 7.50s. You will NEVER compete with boosted cars, so you can't even entertain that thought. There are a few leaf spring cars running 7s in the 1/4 and 4.80s in the 1/8, so it can be done. As far as power, a Predator headed 632 with 3 guns would be relatively competitve. These cars are more about power management than pure power. As stated above, the guy that won the nitrous side at the ORTC race, had a conventional headed 632 with 3 guns on a tunnel ram and went 4.76 in the final. The runner up has a 632 big chief motor, with a single 4 and two kits and he went 4.82. The big chief motor makes more power, but the 60ft decided this race.

Monte




do you know what these guys run in the 60 ft.?

Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: John Burdine] #518644
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I know Brad Edwards the nitrous runner-up at ORTC has been 1.18 a few times against a few cars I help on. I have heard of a few cars going faster. The nitrous ez street car Monte helps with the nitrous on has gone 1.14 or 1.15 with 325's. I can't think of the guys name but its a green and silver notch fox body with a nitrous small block.


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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: Monte_Smith] #518645
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Thanks Monte.

Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: 4404dart] #518646
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The smallblock Mustang was Dustin Mewbournes and it has been 1.14, but not on a regular basis. That was a perfect run type deal. Henderson's big block Regal has been in the teens, but the norm is low 20s. We were on a marginal track this weekend in Montgomery with Henderson's car, on 325s. Went a best of 1.22. On a good track, with 315s, the "hitters" will go from 1.17 to 1.21 or so on a regular basis.

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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: Monte_Smith] #518647
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just read on the YB that Francis Johnson went 1.13 on hoosier 315, 4.70 @ 153.49. f-body, nitrous, 615, 1 carb. sheesh.

Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: John Burdine] #518648
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Is that the red f-body with the funny looking hood?


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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: John Burdine] #518649
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just read on the YB that Francis Johnson went 1.13 on hoosier 315, 4.70 @ 153.49. f-body, nitrous, 615, 1 carb. sheesh.


Francis can do that when the track is on "kill". He runs no progressive and hits it straight up with 3 guns. Track has to be awesome for that to work. In Florida at the ORTC race, he struggled to get down and I think went a best of 4.89.

That is the red Trans Am with yellow "true fire" flames from Maryland.

Monte

Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: Monte_Smith] #518650
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I think a new Challenger would be your best bet. Supras and Vipers have been in the 7's with IRS and like it or not, it the "stock suspension" of the future.

TT R5/P7 and a 2900-3100 raceweight w/o driver.

(dragpacks weight 3100 and have stock heavy seats,dash,door panels etc etc...lots of fat to be cut)

Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: John Burdine] #518651
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so in 2-3 years, how did people opinions change towards a combo like this?

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so in 2-3 years, how did people opinions change towards a combo like this?




ha ha ha ha



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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: joshking440] #518653
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so in 2-3 years, how did people opinions change towards a combo like this?





I would still like to have a 604 motor with an f-3!


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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: joshking440] #518654
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so in 2-3 years, how did people opinions change towards a combo like this?




IF you read the original/1st post, Guppy has achieved that...
7's at over 3200 lbs

Whats next is whats going to be interesting.


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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: Monte_Smith] #518655
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First off, he said "nitrous car". The fastest nitrous radial car in the country, be it Ford, Chevy, whatever, runs in the 7.50s. You will NEVER compete with boosted cars, so you can't even entertain that thought. There are a few leaf spring cars running 7s in the 1/4 and 4.80s in the 1/8, so it can be done. As far as power, a Predator headed 632 with 3 guns would be relatively competitve. These cars are more about power management than pure power. As stated above, the guy that won the nitrous side at the ORTC race, had a conventional headed 632 with 3 guns on a tunnel ram and went 4.76 in the final. The runner up has a 632 big chief motor, with a single 4 and two kits and he went 4.82. The big chief motor makes more power, but the 60ft decided this race.

Monte


i beg to differ w you,my friend Dean runs 1 stage short deck bb chebby in a orange stang 4.78 won x275 last month and has 3 2nd place finishes came in 2nd at shakedown @ etown and yellow bullet nationals.

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i'm in the process of having my motor done for a sb 440ci on nos,fogger on x275 true stock suspension cal trac car 3000lb hopeing for 8.30's we shall see

Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: fishy340] #518657
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First off, he said "nitrous car". The fastest nitrous radial car in the country, be it Ford, Chevy, whatever, runs in the 7.50s. You will NEVER compete with boosted cars, so you can't even entertain that thought. There are a few leaf spring cars running 7s in the 1/4 and 4.80s in the 1/8, so it can be done. As far as power, a Predator headed 632 with 3 guns would be relatively competitve. These cars are more about power management than pure power. As stated above, the guy that won the nitrous side at the ORTC race, had a conventional headed 632 with 3 guns on a tunnel ram and went 4.76 in the final. The runner up has a 632 big chief motor, with a single 4 and two kits and he went 4.82. The big chief motor makes more power, but the 60ft decided this race.

Monte


i beg to differ w you,my friend Dean runs 1 stage short deck bb chebby in a orange stang 4.78 won x275 last month and has 3 2nd place finishes came in 2nd at shakedown @ etown and yellow bullet nationals.




You do know that Monte's comments were from 2009 right???
Thats 2 years ago...LOL
I sure hes well aware of Dino's car..


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Re: build a drag radial nitrous mopar? [Re: sdaurity] #518658
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Yes thats him.he was suppose to have a big motor in before going to FL but he has the car dial in so he didnt want to change it.From what he told me he might give it up like a full time job he says.

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