Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
[Re: dan6412]
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In general, I agree with that. It's gonna be a pig. BUT if you have your heart set on it,springs will need replaceing, perhaps the guides cut down for retainer clearance, and a bunch of gear(391's or better). Even an hp 383 won't be 10:1 comp in real life (the pistons would have to be domed for that with 906's) so depending what your goals are, you are likely better with something a lot less 
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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No matter how tight the budget is, DO NOT put that cam in it. That cam is designed for everything you don't have : high compression, high stall(edit, realized your was a 4-speed but I still don't think that would help enough to make me want to run this cam in your 383), numerically high rear gears, and a full 440 cubes would help.
If the budget is that tight, I would rather run the stock cam. If you still want an aftermarket cam but don't want to spend $$$, I'd look at the summit cam/lifter kits. The small summit kit K6400 is roughly equivalent to the stock 440-hp cam. And it should work fine with your current springs.
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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Even the .484 cam is HUGE in a stock 383... (I tried it)FWIW I'd sell that .509.. For some reason people still go for the old MP grinds and they resell pretty easy! Or do some horse trading for something better suited... Voodoo 60301 or the mentioned Summit cam  both should get by with your springs
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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I put that cam in a stock 440... it sounded great! but it was a total slug to drive..everyday performance was BAD..NO fun I changed to a .471 Street hemi style grind and it woke right up, a really good choice for a stock motor.
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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if you're looking for a good cam that will be a power upgrade from the cam that's in there now, I'd use a lunati voodoo 60302 with comp 911 springs.
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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I would run it all it needs is a little cam advance and it will kick ##$. you should upgrade the springs to 33's or some comp cams ones http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/valvesprings2.htmlThe 509 is a great cam and in a four speed it will be fine. Most inexperienced posters don't know how to set them up. They are best with mild no brainer cams. Hey if it don't work installed as I say it's and easy enough out!!! (but it will work)So Install it with the intake centerline (max lift) at least 4 advanced in at 102 or maybe even 100 and it will have all the life and pop you want! I personally love this cam for the street and light strip. But unlike most above I like all the power you can get and have learned over the years how to make bigger cams work to get low end and max power!!
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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The .509 makes power. But the wrong type for a street car. Assuming the poster who disagree are ignorant shows a heck of a labido. I've run the .509, and I've taken them out when they are all wrong. For the poster's need it's wrong. There are MUCH better cams out there, and even if you do want to run 70s technology the 21st century low bidder manufacturing stinks on them. Do yourself a favor and have the block blueprinted and run something designed for modern all around performance. In any case, replace the springs to match your cam choice. Stock springs are too weak for any perfomance cam worth buying.
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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The .509 makes power. But the wrong type for a street car. Assuming the poster who disagree are ignorant shows a heck of a labido. I've run the .509, and I've taken them out when they are all wrong. For the poster's need it's wrong. There are MUCH better cams out there, and even if you do want to run 70s technology the 21st century low bidder manufacturing stinks on them. Do yourself a favor and have the block blueprinted and run something designed for modern all around performance. In any case, replace the springs to match your cam choice. Stock springs are too weak for any perfomance cam worth buying.
I didn't even bother to respond to the other reply.. . why start a  I have neither the interest or time for it  My only comment will be figure out the dynamic compression on that 383 with that cam...And the OP hasn't even offered the gearing in the car yet.
Agreed the 02 voodoo would be a very good choice and was my initial thought, but still trying to keep in the guidelines set by the OP (his current springs.) I went more conservative
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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10/27/09 08:02 AM
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If you have a 3.91 or steeper gear, and want to switch to a single plane intake, and shave the heads for more compression, swap in the correct valve springs, and add 750 double pumper...it will work fine and should run in the 12's depending on your shifting. If you would prefer to keep everything you have the same, I would not go bigger than say the hemi grind.
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Re: Do you think this cam is to big?
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The .509, i personally like this cam, works really good for a bracket cam for its low price, they are also nice for a street car, but only if you don't mind building the engine/drivetrain around it to get the full potential out of it, for such a small lift, they are very aggressive with lots of overlap & dur. & .50", but not really a good choice for the adverage street cruiser with a mild combo, your overall combo on the car is conservitive, so stay conservative on the cam, you'll be much happier.
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