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I had bought a used console for an automatic for my 69 charger project. I am going to run the keisler 5 speed. I bought a reproduction 4 speed top plate which does not lay down on the plastic console properly. The auto plate fits perfect. My question is will the auto and 4 speed factory top plates fit the console properly? Or is the auto console only fit a auto top plate? I always thought they interchanged just the plastic part had the manual kick out. I just want to be sure before i arrange to return it.

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The word around here is the repo top plates don't fit...Which really stinks cause I could use a set...

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The word around here is the repo top plates don't fit...Which really stinks cause I could use a set...




I wish I had known that before I bought it.

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depends on who you bought it from. i've heard pg classics fit very, very poorly because its not made 100% like the originals. if you use B/E/A's repo top plates, ive heard theirs are dead on and fit perfectly----ive yet to buy a set though. i need a set of 4speed plates for my 70 R/T console and im thinking of just buying originals and having them replated.....for the price of a new one, might wanna just go that route?

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depends on who you bought it from. i've heard pg classics fit very, very poorly because its not made 100% like the originals. if you use B/E/A's repo top plates, ive heard theirs are dead on and fit perfectly----ive yet to buy a set though. i need a set of 4speed plates for my 70 R/T console and im thinking of just buying originals and having them replated.....for the price of a new one, might wanna just go that route?




My understanding is BEA sells PG's product...

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depends on who you bought it from. i've heard pg classics fit very, very poorly because its not made 100% like the originals. if you use B/E/A's repo top plates, ive heard theirs are dead on and fit perfectly----ive yet to buy a set though. i need a set of 4speed plates for my 70 R/T console and im thinking of just buying originals and having them replated.....for the price of a new one, might wanna just go that route?




My understanding is BEA sells PG's product...





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So i am correct that the plastic console is the same fit wise at the shift plate weather its an auto or 4 speed.

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hmmm, news to me---great! will someone flippin reproduce parts correctly then

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So i am correct that the plastic console is the same fit wise at the shift plate weather its an auto or 4 speed.




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hmmm, news to me---great! will someone flippin reproduce parts correctly then




Unfortunately I don't see any reason for it's an expensive part that needs to be right, I'm always bothered that someone would reproduce a part but not take the time to get it right...

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hmmm, news to me---great! will someone flippin reproduce parts correctly then




Unfortunately I don't see any reason for it's an expensive part that needs to be right, I'm always bothered that someone would reproduce a part but not take the time to get it right...




Ever see a reproduction Superbird nose rub strip?

Actually pitiful.

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i used a pg top plate on a 69 b body last yr and it fit,ah,... was not to great.when the plate was slipped into the front of the console,the rear didnt lay down flat.kinda of a potato chip shape of sorts.i pushed it down to make it work,and wasnt impressed,for the price of the stupid part,that we all need bad.but as we give up our jobs,to china,and buy more of the stuff the produce,maybe some day we will admit,....opps.

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i used a pg top plate on a 69 b body last yr and it fit,ah,... was not to great.when the plate was slipped into the front of the console,the rear didnt lay down flat.kinda of a potato chip shape of sorts.i pushed it down to make it work,and wasnt impressed,for the price of the stupid part,that we all need bad.but as we give up our jobs,to china,and buy more of the stuff the produce,maybe some day we will admit,....opps.




Thats the way mine fits. Plus it was to wide at the screw tabs. I was able to grind that down about 1/8 or so on each side. I thought that was the problem. I can force it into place but its really flexing the console a lot.

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Nitrousin---Read what I wrote in your other thread I am glad I spent 1k for a complete mint '68 4spd. console after the horror stories of spending $$$$ only to hang the part on the wall...

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post4011978

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Nitrousin---Read what I wrote in your other thread I am glad I spent 1k for a complete mint '68 4spd. console after the horror stories of spending $$$$ only to hang the part on the wall...

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post4011978




Thanks for the input. Thats funny i said i missed anything about them and in the post you replied in was started by me on the a-pillar mlds. I never paid any attention to what you said. Problem is i bought mine 4 months ago. It looked fine but i never tried to fit it. I was fitting the console and getting the brackets in place so i figured i will toss the lid on to check the floor hole fitting where the shift tower come through. Thats where i came across the ill fitting lid. We will see if anything gets done on it. Thanks for the input. At least i know it is not all me.

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The bad thing is even though it's a product that doesn't fit. You will be told it was modified(grinded on) so it cannot be returned. So they can't sell it to someone else.. Since there are alot of repo's out there I thought about posting a thread about repo parts and which ones are good/bad BUT after a thinking about it...BAD IDEA...It would be locked and useless in about an hour..I can see it,many people talking second hand and then get into the whole chinese vs US made repo debate will put a dagger in it... And because of this alot of people have to spend $$$$ before they realize the parts are pretty much useless....

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The bummer is it's very much a needed part & PG/BEA have brought quite a few needed parts out that fit & work fine, this part happens to be fairly expensive & it should be made right...I'm glad someone bought the perfect 68 4spd console, unfortunately for me I need a 68 auto console & while I have very nice used parts I'd like a correct "new" part...

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The bummer is it's very much a needed part & PG/BEA have brought quite a few needed parts out that fit & work fine, this part happens to be fairly expensive & it should be made right...I'm glad someone bought the perfect 68 4spd console, unfortunately for me I need a 68 auto console & while I have very nice used parts I'd like a correct "new" part...




Even worse, if someone else wanted to reproduce this console the correct way with the correct curvature, who would do it now? The market is so tight two choices for parts kills it.

So the first guy to the dance spoils it if they mess up.

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The bummer is it's very much a needed part & PG/BEA have brought quite a few needed parts out that fit & work fine, this part happens to be fairly expensive & it should be made right...I'm glad someone bought the perfect 68 4spd console, unfortunately for me I need a 68 auto console & while I have very nice used parts I'd like a correct "new" part...




I agree about PG classic helping the hobby but when dealing with aftermarket parts not all of it is good and many are already being made before they make the same thing again...Look at how many generations of Challenger qtrs have been stamped before them got them right...

I was the one who paid $1,000 for the 68 4spd Console..Reason I wrote I was glad was cause as soon as I bought it all the top plates and chrome came out...Feeling like I should have waited I am glad I didn't knowing it fits like crap...I try and buy nos or perfect original parts when I can so a grand was alot and had me thinking. After seeing the prices,buying all the "repo" stuff would have cost me more probably about $500-700 more...

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the strange thing is the other products i see being produced by pg,are pretty nice.the 70 runner signal lenses,70 cuda front sig lenses,ect.i havent installed all the stuff,but looks pretty nice sitting on the tables at the swaps,so WHY didnt they ,make sure the console top was ok??? its a highly needed and noticable part.why would you let the crap out of china,and or why would the us vendors except it? just wondering,i guess we need parts so bad,we still buy it? gee i wish my brother in law lived in china.....

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