Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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Okay guys, here's the quick and dirty update: The leaf springs have been relocated, with the spring hangers out of the way the back of the body has been brought down. There was so much backspacing on the Dakota wheels they rubbed at the top of the wheelwell on the body, so I put a pair of 15x8 hot rod steelies with 265-75r15 commando tires on the rear and they're close but they fit, even with the fender on on the passenger side. I think I still want to run tall skinny tires on the original steel wheels, just so I can lower the rear some more, but I have a couple sets of different mag wheels I may try out. The 8 3/4 rearend (1969 Dodge Charger FYI) is mocked up in there, the new perches are not welded yet. My next plans are to build/modify the radiator support, trim the front frame rails, and get the front clip on. Maybe drop the 440/727 in and get that mocked up in there, maybe fire it up for giggles!! More junk found at my webpage: Bringing the Back of the 1940 Dodge Coupe down over the Frame.
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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11/13/09 03:59 AM
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very kool ,,keep us posted,, i like it
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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QUESTION is the dakota frame stock length or has it been shortened ? cant imagine the kick up being in the perfect position,,,,kool comming along nicely
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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thanks i see it now,,, i thought some one on this board was going to use a dakota and not slice and dice it,,,guess i was dreaming,,lol
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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11/16/09 01:06 AM
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sounds like that will work out great for you,,,didnt realize the 38 was that much shorter in wheel base then say a 40 ply/dodge
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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The '38 wheelbase is probably the same as the '40 ? I didn't have to shorten the Dakota frame because the one I have is a short wheelbase '89 Dakota 111.5" which is almost identical to my '38.
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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11/16/09 02:17 PM
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I got a couple hours in on the Coupe this weekend. Didn't do anything monumental, but any progress is good. Measured out and trimmed back the front frame rails, and then got the front sheetmetal all bolted together. I would have finished up building the mount for the radiator support, but I got distracted by another side project. I'll hopefully finish that up tonight, so I won't need jack stands to hold it up anymore. Link: Front Sheetmetal Action
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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Scott, I am at about the same place as you with my '38 also going on a Dakota. I have not relocated the rear springs yet. I am also close to welding in the radiator support. I did like you and put the front fenders on to locate the body over the front wheels on the Dakota frame. I have trimmed a little off the front frame rails, but only enough to get the fenders on. After the radiator support is in place I will be able to take several inches more off of the front rails. Have you decided how you are going to attach the body to the Dakota frame? I still have the '38 frame and have considered cutting the original body mounts off of it and making brackets to weld them onto the Dakota. Or, maybe look for aftermarket body mounts to weld on?
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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John, I've been fabbing my own frame to body mounts as I go, it's quick and easy. I use 2x3 or 2x4 inch box tubing, with the length cut as needed and then sliced diagonally to make a matching pair of them. Then drill your holes accordingly. Here's the only picture I have handy, ignore the tube in the picture, I'm using it to hold the body up off the frame while I cut on the rear. I removed the tube, set the body back down over the frame, and tacked them to the frame.
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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i think the 1940 is 119 or 120 inch wheel base
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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i think the 1940 is 119 or 120 inch wheel base
I only know for sure that the wheelbase on the 1940 Dodge two door models were 119.5", and the first gen short cab long bed Dakota I got was 123.9". I also know the short bed short cab Dakota models were too short for my needs, so they must have been under 119".
There is other information in this thread that may be useful: 1940 Dodge Frame Interchange?
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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so the best deal would be to get a long wheel base dakota and shorten it,,,verses making a short wheel base dakota longer,,,
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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Shawn, I have an idea similar to that for the radiator support that wouldn't involve hacking up the original, I'll snap a few pictures when I get around to building it here soon. I'm not sure yet about the rear rails. They are pretty tall and I thought about tapering them down towards the end. I was hoping to get the 440 installed last night, but I had to cook dinner, then put up the Christmas lights on the house, and ended up cleaning the garage. Maybe tonight?
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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11/25/09 12:08 AM
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xmas lights on the house already ?? yikes,,,
scott i e mailed you pics of the side trim i have i think its the hood trim,,
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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xmas lights on the house already ?? yikes,,,
scott i e mailed you pics of the side trim i have i think its the hood trim,,
How long of a piece of trim do you need? I have some trim from a 4 door 40 sedan, I might have something that is close enough you could trim it down to work. later shawn
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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Don, I think you're right, I think those are the hood trim pieces, I haven't had a chance to get compare the pictures to the car yet. If it is hood trim, I definately need it! Shawn, the only other trim I'm missing is the piece that goes on the passenger side door and the driver's side quarter panel. Apparently there is two trim styles for the 1940 Dodge, I have the three-rib style on my Coupe, and Don has the smooth style on his. Last night I dumped the 440/RV 727 into the car, I still need to build engine mounts on the frame and a tranny crossmember to hold it up at the rear. No pictures because it's not glorious right now, but maybe after I fab up so mounts. I was dinking around with other stuff, and was surprised how easily it will be to mount the front bumper brackets. Pictures of that coming soon, too.
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Re: Okay fabricators... time to make stuff happen!!
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11/27/09 01:48 AM
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scott im sure they are the hood side pieces,,look at the pic of my car here,,for length,,
also i got a hold of a guy that has a ton of 40 dodge parts,,he is thinning out his cars and parts, has a nice rolling car for a resto or rod project,, he said he will get back to me after turkey day or the holidays,,ill keep bugging him,, says he has a lot of trim,,he also has a 40 dash i may be intrested in,,
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