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Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Monte_Smith] #488951
10/06/09 11:16 AM
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Monte, were you at Huntsville last Friday night?

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: 40ford] #488952
10/07/09 12:10 AM
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Leon, you always get defensive, when I don't jump at what you say. I don't exactly agree with what you say about rings and combos and you get snippy. As far as "have done it"...to be honest, no you haven't, or did I miss the time that you went 5.30s, on a 28x10.5, non W tire, on stock suspension, at 3300lbs, with a smallblock, a cast single 4 intake and a single plate. Exactly when was that? What you, or anyone else did, on larger tires and with ladder bars and 4-links, has absolutely no bearing on this conversation. The cars that compete in this class have the best of the best motors, built by builders such as BES, Bennet, Wilkerson, Huntsville Engine, Kuntz, Pro-Line and many others. You are no going to just throw some old stuff together and run up front. As of this time, only a handfull of these cars have dipped into the high 20s and that took stellar conditions. Tell you what, there is a 10,000 race coming up for these type cars in Feb. Why don't you just throw something together and show us how easy it is.

Monte

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Monte_Smith] #488953
10/07/09 01:23 AM
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I think I'm in the minority because I think 900+ will be difficult but not impossible.
That's the reason I suggested CFE. If it was easy, everyone would do it

Like I said you'll need to "access" at least 380 cfm and everything down to the exhaust tuning and intake runner tuning will have to be spot on!
Hope you keep us updated on this project Monte...


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Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Brian Hafliger] #488954
10/07/09 01:33 AM
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I think I'm in the minority because I think 900+ will be difficult but not impossible.
That's the reason I suggested CFE. If it was easy, everyone would do it

Like I said you'll need to "access" at least 380 cfm and everything down to the exhaust tuning and intake runner tuning will have to be spot on!
Hope you keep us updated on this project Monte...


Thanks Brian, I appreciate the honest response and I do know what I am getting into. The class is full of cross breeded cars, owners with plenty of money, and I know a few builders have had the green light to go any direction they thought was best, so if the small Mopar was such a slam dunk, there would be one already. This guy wants to be different and I am like you, I think we can get close to the top guys power wise, but will have to be smart about it.

Monte

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Monte_Smith] #488955
10/07/09 06:19 AM
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Just call ryanj and be done with it that way you cut out of the b.s

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Otherlane] #488956
10/07/09 07:26 AM
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Is a P7 motor out of the question?

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Monte_Smith] #488957
10/07/09 10:27 AM
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An R5P7 will add 100lbs to the nose.


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Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Mike Swann] #488958
10/07/09 10:50 AM
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The problem with the R5 motors is the deck is so short and hard to get any cubic inchs the heads are hard to beat thats for sure .Im not sure on the extra 100 pounds I never weighed my old W9 motor to my R5 motor

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: scottb] #488959
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I think Monty would be using the XR block if it is out yet For those that don't know the XR block uses all the regular smallblock parts Crank rods piston and deck height but you can bolt P7 heads to it. Matt

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: MattW] #488960
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Good luck getting one they are not even released yet last I talked to someone in the know said it might be awhile yet and that was at norwalk when I was talking to him about that block so your only choice is a R5 block

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: scottb] #488961
10/07/09 01:07 PM
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There isnt any doubt in my mind the R5 heads bolted onto the right shortblock would make 900 ponies.

The problem is, as Scott correctly point out, is that no such block currently exists, except one which has only been " dreamed about" thus far.

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Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: B3422W5] #488962
10/07/09 06:09 PM
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Still window shopping and learning,I'll keep this one.THANKS!

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: DavidDean] #488963
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Any UPDATE Monty? Matt

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: Otherlane] #488964
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Just call ryanj and be done with it that way you cut out of the b.s



Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? [Re: MattW] #488965
02/08/10 08:45 PM
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Any UPDATE Monty? Matt




I asked Monte about this buildup a month or so ago and the owner decided to go a different direction.......

Wayne

Re: Smallblock question, Ryan J or ?? #488966
02/09/10 06:24 PM
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Any UPDATE Monty? Matt




I asked Monte about this buildup a month or so ago and the owner decided to go a different direction.......

Wayne [/quote
Thanks for the info! Matt

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