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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 572_dup2] #465923
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1: if the car slowed down and lost mph with the t/r, then something's wrong.
2: with that chevy hood on it, the front carb probably can't get any air.
3: dram offered to fix it.
4: i learned a long time ago that throwing money at a problem isn't the way to go fast.
5: i know a little about tunnel rams.

Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: tjmarcus1] #465924
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I need to show the pic of the hood now. See what you think. It has holes in it but rab just the same?


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 572_dup2] #465925
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How do the plugs look? they should look like brand new with q-16..what kind of timing?have you dynoed it with the new set-up?

A cowl hood will not work..trust me. I have gone down that road.you might try to run with the hood off and put 2 big K/N air filters on it..having the 2x4 is going to be a challenge there.. do like the truck pullers do..it will look goofy,but worth a try..


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: sixpackgut] #465926
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Fill them with fuel, take them off the intake and set them on the workbench for 20 mins and see if they are dripping. My old carb did that.




bigcube, where were they dripping from? the boosters, intermediat circuit? PV vac hole?



I don't know, only one barrel in the secondaries. I never did figure it out. The butterflies weren't wet so seems like it was from below that.. the transfer slots maybe? The carb was strange, needed HUGE jets. It needed 99 sq when my other 1150 needed 92 on the same motor.

Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Bigcube] #465927
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Where do you have the air gap set on the crank trigger pick up?

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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Plumb Wired] #465928
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Dont quote me on this but i think its around 60?


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 572_dup2] #465929
09/11/09 10:37 PM
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We had a problem with the car not starting when it was just recently run with no changes, air gap was .060 - .065. After checking everything known to man we tightened up the air gap to .040 and it hasn't missed a beat since.

Mike Gray


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Plumb Wired] #465930
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We had a problem with the car not starting when it was just recently run with no changes, air gap was .060 - .065. After checking everything known to man we tightened up the air gap to .040 and it hasn't missed a beat since.

Mike Gray




Why all of the sudden a backfire never started again? We did put on a new trigger did nothing.


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 572_dup2] #465931
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Can't explain that. Just thought I'd add our recent odd experience. There is no need to replace a pick if it has between 80-85 Ohms. Could be numerous things, kinda hard to trouble shoot if you're not there. I'm sure one of the rocket-surgeons on here will figure it out.

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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Plumb Wired] #465932
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Thanks Mike


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 572_dup2] #465933
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sorry to hear its not running right Shawn.

nothing to do with the backfire , but did you go to a different converter with that new engine ?

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Mike,
I thought you were going to tell him to put a 114mm turbo on it..LOL

A F3R procharger would love that cubic inch...


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 493_DART] #465935
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sorry to hear its not running right Shawn.

nothing to do with the backfire , but did you go to a different converter with that new engine ?




converter stayed the same. It has had its best 60s with the 2x4s.


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 572_dup2] #465936
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Just thinking out loud, I know you said you didn't change anything, and it happened all of the sudden but...

1) Did you happen to lash the valves? Maybe an intake valve is hung open a little by mistake?

2) Is it possible the distributor is out of phase just enough that when you are retarding it during start, it's jumping back to the previous terminal on occasion?

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I'm certainly no rocket surgeon but check to make sure your plug wires aren't crossed.

who set up your carbs for Q16?? without a dyno that fuel is very hard to tune

good luck

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Twin dominator throttle bodies with electronic fuel injection....would be the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]....but I already posted that in his other thread...If you like spending money that would be a good way.


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Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MegaDart] #465939
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I'm certainly no rocket surgeon but check to make sure your plug wires aren't crossed.

who set up your carbs for Q16?? without a dyno that fuel is very hard to tune

good luck




I'm defnately no expert but have you always run the q16?
If so,try another fuel.I run VP fuels and love it,but I went to their 113 wich isn't as oxygenated as the q16 and had nothing but problems.You can't just jet it up like they ell you,you need to richen up the idle and intermediale circuits as well.Just a thought.

Re: total piece of trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 572_dup2] #465940
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Ground! Must put msd ground directly to engine block. Then run a ground wire to the batteries. No mater if you have solid motor mounts. Msds will fry with only a small loose ground. A body is a poor ground, and the copper wire going directly to the battery is less resistance. Often over looked by many. Oldtimer

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