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"John Force altered the out come of the race period."

What, exactly, is your point? It's John's money, John's car, well, John's everything. If he wants to run good then he runs good. If he wants to let his son-in-law win then that's what he does. He decides what he wants out of racing and his team- not you, Tony P or anyone else. You "racing is sacred" guys are laughable.

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I can't count the times that Curt and myself meet in the late rounds and finals and would bump shoulders in the lanes to decide who would win the round.Most of the the time I would give the nod and wink to Curt.Those were some of the proudest moments a father could experience.Even today it's not unusual for members of BGR to help other members.I always tell the crew and friends if they want another time trial line up with me,I'am not there for the win or money,I just want to be the "show".Like John Force,I have nothing to prove,after 40+ years(but on a much,much smaller scale than John)but the same game.Let the team and the new kids have a turn and experience what we had a life time of.Heck ask Lonnie what I told him in the lanes at PRP,"use this run for your advantage,I'am not looking for a win,I just want to see the blue sky" John Force did what any savy team owner and proud father would do.He had a planned strategy and executed the plan successfully.Again to John Force and to Tony P aka crybaby

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John Force altered the out come of the race period.He did it for the sponsors on the car.Was it fair? Heck no!!Robert Height should be given a Emy(?) for his after race interview.What a joke.
As far as you saying that you do the same thing for your kid? Well thats a great way to teach someone the way to earn the respect of the other racers. All those good racers that show up with one car and no one to watch their backs that earn every win and you will throw a race so your kid will get the all the glory.Your kid is a winner because you altered the race just like Force. I call it cheating.I will keep your post and I bet there will be a day that someday someone will lay down and let someone in their team win and you or one of your team will be on the other side of this and then you will jump on here and cry about it.

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Been on the other side many of time.I don't live or die for racing and 99.9% of us will never get rich or even cover our cost.That we enjoy the sport and most of the great people we meet at the events is most important to us.At BGR it's a family atmosphere and the fact that that we can attend have fun and return home safe is our goal and If any of our races win , that's like having icing on cake.We have many great racers in the BGR family and not a whiner or crybaby in the bunch.You can keep my quote for the rest of your life and it won't change a thing.Hope that you can become as great as John Force someday,and I will humble myself to your achievments

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I agree, many would do it for family here, if they say NOT they are simply liars.

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Bob I will never be as good as John Force or have the money he has and well he deserves.He will always be one or the Hall of Fame Racers no matter what he dose. He has earned that over the decades of being cheated out of races.Now he is on top and he is doing the cheating.Force was always the little guy racer that everyone beat up.Thats way I'am a fan of his.Now I'am just sad to see him do the same thing.
I'am bored and waiting to go to work.So I have a question for you. You have a great buisness. Now you are at a track and your son and a coustumer are battleing for number ten spot.You have a chance to let your son win a round to get him into the finals.Your coustumer has the track champ to race.Now your coustumer knows by your own statement that you will throw a race for your son.Do you think he will understand?

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First of all,lets set the record straight.The BGR family was a group of racers created and organized by my late son Curt.Our"customers" do not exist.They may have at one time(however shortly) they become our friends and our friends became our family,hence"BGR"I personally have never made a decision that effected anyone or any race that the outcome debliberately effected anyone other than myself.I have on many occasions have helped a racer(whom I didn't know) and they have gone on and beat some of our cars at events.The Smiths and many others here will varify that as fact.Years ago a Hemi racer(Boyd Peck)had problems with his carbs.I help him sort it out and he beat Curt in the final.Was I upset?No,and Boyd and I remain friends some 20+ years later.Mostly today,and it happens quite frequently(since we have so many cars in different classes)we let the drivers sort out their situations.We have had many of our cars race each other in the final,recently AJ Casini and Donny Martik shook hands in the lanes and raced their race,congradulated each other at the end of the night and all went home safe.Maybe if I ever get to be as great as John Force I might be put in the position where I have to make a call that might piss some one off.We can only wish to rise to that position in the sport.Since I'am near my zenith of my life and career I'll let the our racers make their own calls and if Curt was still with me,I would piss under his opponants slicks,just to give him one more win.Trying to demean me for not seeing it your way is a waste of mine and your time.I respect John Froce for the man he is and what he has done for the sport.Oboviously you don't know me or anything about me.I hope you have many successful events in your life and people will look up to you with admiration and respect.Don't pass judgement on me for my expressing my opinion until you can say that you know me

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What's the difference between them and this thread? They didn't have the benefit of seeing ESPN persistantly stir the pot, that's what!

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Let me see if I have the blame game straight here... In this thread alone we have seen the following indicted from one round of one race.

John Force - for taking a dive, owning a large team and generally being the darling of the profession drag racing world
Robert Height - for not getting the job done himself
Tony Pedregon - for whining
Cruz Pedregon - for not winning more races
NHRA - for bringing about the countdown to 1 thing, ruining the purity of the sport, letting it become big business, allowing teams to form as well as other sins against humanity
NASCAR - for coming up with that countdown to 1 thing
WWE - for being the WWE
ESPN - for fueling the controversy

Am I missing anyone?

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Bob you are right 100% on John Force owning everything including NHRA'S spine. What do you mean when you say "racing is sacred guys are laughable?" I go to a race to win and with only one car and liminted funds.You think its ok for lets say a group of racers to throw races so one of their own that may need a point or two to get into the top 10 for the year will win the race? That is BS.

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Michael,you missed Ashley Forse Hood for being such a hottie.I'am sure she had someting to do with it.

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A pessimist is a man who thinks all women are bad. An optimist is a man who hopes they are.

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Bob you are right 100% on John Force owning everything including NHRA'S spine. What do you mean when you say "racing is sacred guys are laughable?" I go to a race to win and with only one car and liminted funds.You think its ok for lets say a group of racers to throw races so one of their own that may need a point or two to get into the top 10 for the year will win the race? That is BS.

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I am assuming that you don't feed your family or pay your mortgage with racing proceeds and until you are involved with the corporate aspect of it your opinion doesn't mean much to me.

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Most of the time its no money to race.There are friends of mine that race every weekend and take pride for every round they win.For anyone with a group that at the end of the year race that could alter the points standing by laying down is wrong. Thats all I am saying.Most everyone that races knows that its for the pride more than money.Alittle opinion is better than none. If you tell a little lie are you a lier. If you alter the out come of a race are you a cheater?If you cheat a little racing will you cheat elsewhere?

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Michael,you missed Ashley Forse Hood for being such a hottie.I'am sure she had someting to do with it.

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A pessimist is a man who thinks all women are bad. An optimist is a man who hopes they are.

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40 years ago I was an optimist,today I'am a pessimist cause I think all women are evil

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Bob you are right 100% on John Force owning everything including NHRA'S spine. What do you mean when you say "racing is sacred guys are laughable?" I go to a race to win and with only one car and liminted funds.You think its ok for lets say a group of racers to throw races so one of their own that may need a point or two to get into the top 10 for the year will win the race? That is BS.

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I am assuming that you don't feed your family or pay your mortgage with racing proceeds and until you are involved with the corporate aspect of it your opinion doesn't mean much to me.

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Most of the time its no money to race.There are friends of mine that race every weekend and take pride for every round they win.For anyone with a group that at the end of the year race that could alter the points standing by laying down is wrong. Thats all I am saying.Most everyone that races knows that its for the pride more than money.Alittle opinion is better than none. If you tell a little lie are you a lier. If you alter the out come of a race are you a cheater?If you cheat a little racing will you cheat elsewhere?

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Well I certainly can't speak for all the selfrightous,hollier than thou,pious,above reproach,self proclaimed saviours. Since I've been deem a lier and cheater,I'll let them cast the first stone.The term "hypocrite" certainly can be applied here.