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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: chargervert] #43410
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Just started following this one. I did the same thing except not as extensive work to my 72 duster. I did it in high school auto body class and did the motor at home. Got it back put together by may 15th for my prom on the 16th. Had to skip school on the 15th with a buddy to finish it. We even got our mom's to call us in sick. The bad thing is we forgot to buy tickets and had to go to school to get them. We went in the back door thinking we'd get in and out and still be safe. Nope got busted and spent 2 saturday mornings in detention for it! Was worth it though! Spent the summer driving the car until oct 4th when I was cruising/trying to find someone to race. We had the air cleaner off. The car back fired melted the plastic fuel filter(note to self after that NEVER BUY PLASTIC!) and burned up the front half of the car. Melted the sharktooth grille but barely damaged the scoops! Good for me the fire station was 1 block away!
So long story short LEARN FROM ME PLEASE!

Keep up the great work and posts you are doing a great job! Good luck meeting your deadline!

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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: cudaboy340] #43411
12/30/07 03:31 PM
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I wonder if that Charger was a sunroof car,and thats why the roof was cut off. Check the top of the wheelwells in the rear,and where the door hinges bolt to the body for drain holes. If there are drain holes,than it was a sunroof car.


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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: chargervert] #43412
12/30/07 04:32 PM
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Steve & Ryan, do you need a rust-free LH 1/4 lower patch (behind the wheel) that I have been saving since the early 80's? I was going to use it on my '71 Hemi Charger which burned to oblivion in 1984. This patch has perfect contours, is rust-free, & is about the bottom 15" or so of the behind the wheel area of the driver's quarter.

I just started reading this thread - very cool.

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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: SilverFrost Cuda] #43413
12/30/07 09:22 PM
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SilverFrost Cuda - Heres the pad after an armoral cleaning. For $25 its perfect, 3 dimples in it and two small holes to fill...



Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43414
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cudaboy340 -Ed, thanks for the invite, we are really pumped about being featured at Carlisle, been attending for awhile and now we will be part of it!


chargervert -I checked for the holes and they are there, im thinking the car was a dealer promo car or something, it had power windows and everything.

Only got a little done today, just pulled the old trunk extension out!





Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43415
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: SilverFrost Cuda] #43416
12/30/07 09:59 PM
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Not only are you guy kickin azz on that project,your showing people that it can be done affordably! You guys have had tremendous luck finding nice sheetmetal,for reasonable prices. It's gonna be a cool ride when it's done. I think I saw your Challenger in the last row of the vendor area at Carlsile,last summer.


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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: chargervert] #43417
12/31/07 01:35 PM
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chargervert -Thanks, Yes we have had very good luck with finding sheetmetal. I have to say that normally we dont find as many good deals as we have but hey, the mopar people must know what we are trying to accomplish here. I still have lots of parts to sell from the parts car to bring the cost down even more.

You did see my challenger there, next to moparmarks sheetmetal stand. I put some absurd price on it just for laughs to see if anyone would pay that for the heep Never would sell it though, nor this car

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43418
12/31/07 08:10 PM
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Since i dont have a hump and always thought that the floor was completely cutout i stayed away from putting it in. Well i went to look under my shaker car and saw that the floor is still there over the frame which would have been the problem installing it. So i decided that we'll install the floor now and if we can locate an original hump cut it after. So here is the floor stripped of surface rust and primered it up with some weld through primer. Layed it in and it fits like a glove





No i just have ohh say 100 or so welds to plug before it can call it done, i did about four but i have to get ready for new years tonight


Anyone have a 4 speed hump? Let me know what you need to get for it if so

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43419
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Hey guys! Havent been able to do much beside plug holes on the floor, so its nothing work taking pictures of, but i did go to the yard and pick up a pair of dual horns and front wiring harness for $25.

I've never posted a picture of the future drivetrain but here it is.



Here is the stuff we picked up, oh and forgot to say i sold the rails off the parts car for another $500!



Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43420
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So you were not happy with the fit of the repo trunk floor? I didn't even know that one was available now for these cars. What were the issues you had with it if you don't mind me asking? Looks like it is a 2 piece, is this correct? Thanks. Nice work by the way.

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build #43421
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Yes the trunk floor is a two piece and it wasnt that i wasnt happy with the fit, its just that i found this original trunk floor and extensions when i went for the wheel tubs, and nothings better than an original. I dont know how the repo floor would fit but i can say that i know the trunk extensions with take quite a bit of work.

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43422
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With the new rear half inside i got a little done on its deconstruction. I'm trying to take advantage of this warm weather since there is no heat in the barn. But I drilled out quarter end on the drivers side, and the quarter end and trunk gutter on the passenger for replacement of the bee's...





Here is what i have done to the clip, im trying to decide the best way to install and what to take off and use from the bee. Its a tough call but the only thing i am sure of is i will keep the trunk and trunk extensions together!



An update of the expenses, sold some stuff, bought some...




Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $150
Dash Pad - $25
Dual Horns and Front Wiring Harness - $25

Total - $3692.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500
Front Frame Rails(second parts car set) - $500
Grand Total - $2692.40



Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43423
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I bet your getting pretty sick of drilling out spotwelds!


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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43424
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chargervert -I checked for the holes and they are there, im thinking the car was a dealer promo car or something, it had power windows and everything.






Yes it was a sunroof car,It also had a tilt column in it...
Car is coming along nice,keep up the good work
Sorry to hear that the new trunk floors sound like a better than nothing type of product...

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: chargervert] #43425
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I bet your getting pretty sick of drilling out spotwelds!



To say the least. I drilled out a lot more but wont post pics until i get the whole assembly that i will be using off the clip!

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43426
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Got the trunk floor out, Finally! Heres some pics of the assembly and how it will be installed after a little metal work...


The trunk extensions are not perfect as i saw when bought but the top halfs of them are excellent. What i am going to do it take metal from the reproduction pieces or the original to make it a good solid part.




The only thing i did do which i expect what make a mess when removing those stupid brackets that go from the trunk to the tailpanel, its a easy fix as its all flat surface!




Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43427
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Devil Well as you know its better to have a lot of extras parts then to have nothing at all. I would love to come out there and go junkyarding with yourself, its such a rush in my mind. I cant get enough of it




Oh yeah, nothing like going through a new yard. Never knowing what is lying in the next pile.

Look in the Bushnell folder of my Cars in Barns albums. Quite a few 71-74 b-bodies in there....




Ryan

Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: Devil] #43428
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Devil There are quite of few cars in there, and complete at that. You lucky to find half those parts on the yards i go to.

Did a little work to get the trunk assembly ready to go in. First was to repair the drivers side trunk extension. Cut the new reproduction piece for patches. I know some of you may thank that is nuts but its much easier considering the fitment of those pieces is not very good. It would take a lot more to make then fit than to patch. Plus its good practice!


Here is the lower patch, as you can see the holes for the drain plugs are different sizes all together...


Butt welded in place!



The upper lip by the wheel housing needed attention too.



Butt welded in!




I started on the passenger side but its bedtime for me. The repro piece doesnt have the flange so ill have to salvage the one off the original extension...


Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build [Re: HemiChallenger] #43429
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Hey guys! Some exciting news today, got my package from member Sunroofcuda. He Generously donated quarter patch panels for the drivers rear quarter! I cannot thank him enough! Check them out! I cannot wait to put them on...


Also a few of the items that we dont need sold on ebay. If the sellers pay here is the new total...


Expenses:
Car Cost - $1500
Deck lid (thanks to moparmarks) - $100
Front Grilles (thanks to moparmarks - $50
Sidemarkers (4) - $60
383/727 combo - $300
Parts Car - $300
F/R Bumpers - $75
Trunk Floor - $230.85
Trunk Extensions - $150.48
Complete Interior kit - $626.72
Shipping for above three - $79.35
Rear defrost unit - $20
Parts Car (second one) - $150
Dash Pad - $25
Dual Horns and Front Wiring Harness - $25

Total - $3692.40

Sold/unused items:
Front Frame Rails - $500
Front Frame Rails(second parts car set) - $500
Front Grilles - $126
Four Speed Console - $539.99

Grand Total - $2026.41




The budget is coming along great with the resale of these parts! Awesome news considering i was buying a lot of stuff...

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