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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: HemiChallenger]
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07/17/07 09:53 PM
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Tommorrow i think we are going to grab some parts cars for some donor metal, $500 for the pair, and we can resell some of the parts to try and elimate the cost of the car 
I think thats the only way your staying under 5k. Thats how I was able to do one, in reality I spent over 10k, but little wheeling/dealing, trading/selling parts... looks like you'd have 3k min in sheetmetal.
And the 40k comment, if your having someone do all the work, 40k can go pretty quick at 50 an hour plus parts/material!
68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: Mustanghater]
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07/18/07 01:23 AM
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Great project !!! Maybe we should start a list of things we can donate ?? I'll start. I have a Z bracket and a billit 4 speed shifter bracket !! Let us know.. Maybe someone will fork over a mint pad and Goldberg Hemi !!
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: HemiChallenger]
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07/18/07 08:04 AM
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How many friends you have on this project? Want a word of advise? No? Tough! It's the Inet and I can post what I want.  You guys need to draw straws, pick a number or ::gulp:: volunteer and have one of you peel off the "fun" work and start stripping, wire wheeling, scraping, reconditioning, priming and painting all your interior and suspension parts. Then bag'em and keep'em free from dust. It would behoove you to match the interior panels with the proper screws, the seats with proper screws and brackets. Get the K-frame stripped, dipped and powder coated and get the suspension rebuilt and installed. Think about brake lines, fuels lines and tranny lines. They need cleaned or replaced. Do not leave any fuel line in its present state. I did and ended up buying EVERYTHING fo the fuel system. Blow out your hard lines, replace your rubber hoses. Your console will take the better part of two days for you to restore. Your AC box could take a week. You can do it all, but it takes TIME and it will take as much time on the interior as all that steel work is going to take. You dash and wiring alone could take a month. What about lights and lenses? Polish them up, touch up the paint = TIME. Good luck, but now that the "tear down" is done, y'all need to get that plan we discused out and put it into action. Divvy up the list with clear cut responsibilities. Put together a numbered list, post it on the beer fridge and when you get your waters and sodas, check off only what is complete. You will spend hundreds of dollars on fasteners if you do not bag and tag and clean properly.
No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey!
1970 Coronet Vert
1972 Charger
1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance
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2002 Intrepid
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: 70Coronet500Vert]
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07/18/07 08:25 AM
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I agree with the poster I quoted, and both cars look like good resto-cars, esp the bee. With + - 5000 built it deserves a good resto. With what you have there you could work full time and it would take alot of time. If your going to clean, paint, re-plate parts this all takes so much time and the more anal you are the better the car will turn out. The other day I spent 4 hours on the two rear brake drums of one of my ta cars ...cleaning,blasting.....ect....now they are wrapped up and boxed until they will be ready to be used. Time and money....you have two very nice cars to work with and looks like a nice shop to work in....and last of all, do a good job, because for everyone who like the car you will find one who wants to judge it, weather fair or not. Good luck. Quote:
How many friends you have on this project?
Want a word of advise? No? Tough! It's the Inet and I can post what I want.
You guys need to draw straws, pick a number or ::gulp:: volunteer and have one of you peel off the "fun" work and start stripping, wire wheeling, scraping, reconditioning, priming and painting all your interior and suspension parts. Then bag'em and keep'em free from dust. It would behoove you to match the interior panels with the proper screws, the seats with proper screws and brackets.
Get the K-frame stripped, dipped and powder coated and get the suspension rebuilt and installed.
Think about brake lines, fuels lines and tranny lines. They need cleaned or replaced. Do not leave any fuel line in its present state. I did and ended up buying EVERYTHING fo the fuel system. Blow out your hard lines, replace your rubber hoses.
Your console will take the better part of two days for you to restore. Your AC box could take a week. You can do it all, but it takes TIME and it will take as much time on the interior as all that steel work is going to take. You dash and wiring alone could take a month. What about lights and lenses? Polish them up, touch up the paint = TIME.
Good luck, but now that the "tear down" is done, y'all need to get that plan we discused out and put it into action. Divvy up the list with clear cut responsibilities.
Put together a numbered list, post it on the beer fridge and when you get your waters and sodas, check off only what is complete.
You will spend hundreds of dollars on fasteners if you do not bag and tag and clean properly.
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: quick77rt ]
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07/18/07 10:22 AM
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To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: sunroofgtx]
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07/18/07 10:49 AM
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To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.
I agree on concourse. Face it, $5K is no where near concourse. All I was talking about was basic clean up and resto of parts that you see. It takes time and one of'em should start doing that stuff now. Follow the "how-to" article on doing the AC box. That is days of work. Think of your dash and simply cleaning and re-dying and painting all the parts, again days.
Bagging it all togheter with the fastenes is a smart idea. I did it and it was very helpful. Or at least label the bags, "Left door hardware" Hood catch hardware, etc.....
No matter how responsible he may seem, never give your gun to a monkey!
1970 Coronet Vert
1972 Charger
1974 Satellite Sebring Plus Sundance
2001 Ram 4x4
2002 Intrepid
2006 300C
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: 70Coronet500Vert]
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07/18/07 11:09 AM
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To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.
I agree on concourse. Face it, $5K is no where near concourse. All I was talking about was basic clean up and resto of parts that you see. It takes time and one of'em should start doing that stuff now. Follow the "how-to" article on doing the AC box. That is days of work. Think of your dash and simply cleaning and re-dying and painting all the parts, again days.
Bagging it all togheter with the fastenes is a smart idea. I did it and it was very helpful. Or at least label the bags, "Left door hardware" Hood catch hardware, etc.....
the whole time my vert was at the body shop i was cleaning/blasting, painting, rebuilding everything that was on the car when it was striped.and i mean everything seats ect were even in 110 gallon bags.
I also did the same with the dart sport. everything was labled. only problem is everything from both cars were in my home attic ect.
So bad box everything when done and have fun 
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: 70Coronet500Vert]
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07/18/07 12:24 PM
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To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.
I agree on concourse. Face it, $5K is no where near concourse. All I was talking about was basic clean up and resto of parts that you see. It takes time and one of'em should start doing that stuff now. Follow the "how-to" article on doing the AC box. That is days of work. Think of your dash and simply cleaning and re-dying and painting all the parts, again days.
Bagging it all togheter with the fastenes is a smart idea. I did it and it was very helpful. Or at least label the bags, "Left door hardware" Hood catch hardware, etc.....
This holds true, especially if one of the gang falls off of the team. If everything is tagged and bagged, any knucklehead can put it back together..LOL almost... Don't ask me how I know...  All excellent advise. I'm sure The guys will be fine. His dads Hemi Chally was mint !!!
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: sunroofgtx]
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07/18/07 01:50 PM
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To give these "kids" some credit, they are thoroughly qualified for this task. Not sure they want to do a concourse resto, just make a cool ride for prom, and get them lucky with some hotties. Good luck guys.
 
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: DemonKyle]
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07/18/07 05:24 PM
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Steve,
Good luck on the car. Who's going to drive the Challenger? All it needs is the distributor and the right rear wheel.
Last edited by bsakal; 07/18/07 05:25 PM.
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: 1972CudaV21]
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07/19/07 02:07 PM
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Once again Thanks for the all the support, It will really help us throughout the project! aliving824 I dont know why the $5000 budget, beside the fact that it sounded good at the time We think that it is really awesome that some would offer there knowledge, advice, and parts to the project! We cannot thank and be greatful enough. There is mainly two of us with some stray guys every once and awhile. Myself and Ryan are the two main players. Ryan bought the car but ran into some problems so my dad bought it off of him and now were working on restoring it so he can still get the experiece. This is his first hands on car type of work so its sometimes stressful with a newbie, but worth it Brian- I will be driving the Challenger, this one we are building for Ryan Rick- I cant thank you enough for the compliments and positive thoughts, it really means a lot Last night we finish up pulling off the fuel lines and a few of nick nacks that we never did. I went ahead and drilled of the sheet metal needing replaced of the inner fender area...   Pulled off the metal that over hangs to see how bad it is. Still trying to decide what kind of replacement we will do on the cowl. Ouch that is rusty!  I had Ryan practice of the junk i pulled off before we get him going on the real deal  Laying in some metal to invision it back together...  
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: Harlow383]
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07/19/07 04:26 PM
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good job Steve, let me know if you want to come down and work on the Charger.
Brian - 1971 Dodge Challenger
"The Dodge, which was practically stock, just left the Mustang like you wouldn't believe."
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: Silver70]
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07/19/07 05:06 PM
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Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!
Do you really mean that? 
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: CYACOP]
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07/19/07 05:52 PM
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Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!
Do you really mean that?
I see were the comment is coming from and i agree. Yes i do have fun with my friends but then again EVERYONE has something that they love to do and enjoy, whether its a sports, computers, cars, etc. I enjoy this and my friends take an interest in it too. It brings us together and we have memories do this too. I couldnt have had my motor out and back in without 5 guys help! I keep an even balance, so dont worry im not wasting my golden years! 
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Re: Project Young Gun: 1971 Super Bee Budget Build
[Re: HemiChallenger]
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07/19/07 06:33 PM
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Good luck, it can be done. However I would be out having fun with my friends if I was still in hs. You can build cars your whole life, but only in hs for a few years!
Do you really mean that?
I see were the comment is coming from and i agree. Yes i do have fun with my friends but then again EVERYONE has something that they love to do and enjoy, whether its a sports, computers, cars, etc. I enjoy this and my friends take an interest in it too. It brings us together and we have memories do this too. I couldnt have had my motor out and back in without 5 guys help! I keep an even balance, so dont worry im not wasting my golden years!
I've got the same problem...errr, I mean help !! I could not have done it, orrrr, it would have taken months longer than havin my Moparts brothers and our Cleveland Crew here with me...
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Use 1 $500 civic to patch the floors, use another $500 civic to patch the cowl...... it might be doable. 
