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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: BDW] #423555
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I don't know the source of your statue, so no comment, but it certaintly as I read it does NOT cover "rebodies", and the OP until several posts later never devulged his intended "legal", by your statue, purpose of needing replica VIN revits. This has been covered many times, and my main concern was the OP may not have fully understood the can of worms he was opening. And regarding another poster about all the "felons" at car shows, that I am do not know, but I am fairly certain one needs to be charged, convicted, and sentenced to be technically called a "felon".


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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423556
08/02/09 10:43 AM
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It's a thin piece of steel. A piece of steel which has a numerical number with the last 6 digits matching stampings on the body. As long as said numbers match, even if a Federal agent does just happened to spot a "fake" rivet, he would still be faced with the fact that the VIN tag actually GOES WITH THAT CAR. WHO CARES, as long as the car isn't being sold fraudulently! Grey areas in the law are what keep people paranoid. Mine is all pretty and restored, with new rivets. The numbers match the body numbers. And now there is no rust under it. Go for it Chickmaggot!

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423557
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I don't know the source of your statue, so no comment, but it certaintly as I read it does NOT cover "rebodies", and the OP until several posts later never devulged his intended "legal", by your statue, purpose of needing replica VIN rivets








That statement almost sounds like "cop speak", .....the OP's guilty till "proven" innocent,.....
like I said in my posts, it's none of our business what he's doing with them.......he requires them,they are like any other part of the car, just a fastner,.....end of story



Just for s4it$ and giggles, I have my own tool die to strike "roset" style VIN rivets,....dose that make me a counterfeiter

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: DAYCLONA] #423558
08/02/09 11:50 AM
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This is just another simple post buy a guy needing legit info for a legit cause and all of a sudden the moparts moral police come out.

The funny part is all this NOS vin riv stuff is just an unspoken part of the hobby, many many people use them for legit reasons.

I know of a guy in mich, sitting on 500 or so NOS vin rivs, hes sold a few local and they ended up on ebay with no issues.

I dont kiss and tell but many moparts members here are sitting on one or two set of correct vin rivs for correct and legit reasons....who are these members?....baaa good luck, but the moral police would have a fit but these are good honest people.

I had about 100 of these, I used about 40 on the dashwork (gauge clusters, ect) on my R/T, Am I going to hell for using some old rives in a box to fix my gauge clusters....I think not.

Now lets not forget all the open titles that change hands, or the bill of sales with the reduced price for less taxes...but thats all ok, right.

If one is retaging/rebody, using stolen parts to commit fraud, yes they should burn in hell and goto jail. But I dont see the OP asking for vin rivs in public so he can sell his /6 hemi cuda on the bag in six months.

So its clear there are alot of members here riding on a very high horse, I call them keyboard cowboys....but of course no one of them has ever drank and drove, smoked there tires on a public road, missed church,ect....

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: hemi71x] #423559
08/02/09 11:59 AM
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There is a vendor selling those things, advertising on page 56, in the current issue of Mopar Collectors Guide.
Look it up.




I think that you ah talkin about Ron Johnson up in New Hampsha, he sells them. He can fix you up and you'll be a happy campa.

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: ChickMaggot] #423560
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I shot Dave an email already, but he's not gotten back yet. I'm sure he's a busy guy.



Of course he's busy. Supplying Felons with rivets will keep a guy busy but thankfully it's seasonal. He's probably down at ther border smuggling them across in a van that's made entirely from vin rivets.
Whatever you do, don't rat me out when they rubber hose you. I did it on a Chevy truck though.

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: Kingy] #423561
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H#ll,I'l give the guy a set then give the rest away before someone comes knocking on my door and wants to send me to the Gray Bar Hotel.

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: Leadfoot] #423562
08/02/09 04:18 PM
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I shot Dave an email already, but he's not gotten back yet. I'm sure he's a busy guy.



Of course he's busy. Supplying Felons with rivets will keep a guy busy but thankfully it's seasonal. He's probably down at ther border smuggling them across in a van that's made entirely from vin rivets.
Whatever you do, don't rat me out when they rubber hose you. I did it on a Chevy truck though.






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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423563
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I don't know the source of your statue, so no comment, but it certaintly as I read it does NOT cover "rebodies", and the OP until several posts later never devulged his intended "legal", by your statue, purpose of needing replica VIN revits. This has been covered many times, and my main concern was the OP may not have fully understood the can of worms he was opening. And regarding another poster about all the "felons" at car shows, that I am do not know, but I am fairly certain one needs to be charged, convicted, and sentenced to be technically called a "felon".


So is your understanding that if a person is needing VIN rivots then he must be doing a rebody. Put your bullet away Barney. The poster can put his VIN on another dash that has been installed in his car. The dash is a serviceable part that is no welded or permanently attached to the vehicle. Ask your friendly HP. I deal with things such as this alot. I build alot of totals & from time to time the dash has to be changed. Most of them go to the HP for inspection. I must be posting from prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who said that he had to devulge to you or anyone else anyway. It's his business.

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: BulletBob] #423564
08/02/09 07:30 PM
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Most of the people on this post sound like a bunch of crybabies to me


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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: 69L78Nova] #423565
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Most of the people on this post sound like a bunch of crybabies to me




Yeah, because if he uses generic rivets, and doesn't buy the original NOS rivets they'll be the first ones to say he devalued the car, and that he's doing an injustice to society for using nonstock parts or changing something. I just hope he's not thinking about painting it a non-original color... I'm actually typing this from the depths of H311, not prison...


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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: 69L78Nova] #423566
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Most of the people on this post sound like a bunch of crybabies to me




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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: 440beep] #423567
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hey, so let's back to the original question....who sells the correct rivets?

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: AARCONV] #423568
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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #423569
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There is a difference in putting a vin tag on a stolen car versus a restoration.The dash pads that Year One and Ultimate Rides sell are supposed to have the vin tags attached with sheet metal screws I presume!

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: I go fast] #423570
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There is a difference in putting a vin tag on a stolen car versus a restoration.The dash pads that Year One and Ultimate Rides sell are supposed to have the vin tags attached with sheet metal screws I presume!


The keyword in the law is "stolen". It's cool to check the law. You have to be able to understand what you read first.The crybabies will quote law but do they understand it? No.....

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: I go fast] #423571
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There is a difference in putting a vin tag on a stolen car versus a restoration.The dash pads that Year One and Ultimate Rides sell are supposed to have the vin tags attached with sheet metal screws I presume!









So when "officer friendly" stops you for the usual Traffic harrasement,...I mean Enforcement, and see's those "sheetmetal screws" holding your vin plate on,.....no "discussion" will ensue?....right?

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: ChickMaggot] #423572
08/03/09 11:05 PM
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I'm replacing a damaged dashboard with one thats in far better conditon and I'd like to have the title still match the car's VIN after doing so. Cuff me.

Maggot




I see nothing wrong with that situation at all. Plenty of car dash frames were hacked for aftermarket radio installs or were taken over by rust over the years, etc.

I'm pretty sure over half of the people responding here failed to read what your intentions were. They just grabbed the ball and ran, like every VIN rivet post usually plays out.

Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: jcc] #423573
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Is your head so far up your a_ _ that you do not know that year one and other vendors sell reporduction dash pads that require you transfer your vin tag from the old pad to the new one?

I am so sick of the vin police Get a life!!!!!!!

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Re: Who sells VIN rivets? [Re: Idunno] #423574
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Is your head so far up your a_ _ that you do not know that year one and other vendors sell reporduction dash pads that require you transfer your vin tag from the old pad to the new one?

I am so sick of the vin police Get a life!!!!!!!




"Require"?, I thought the only thing Year one requires is you send them money, what you do thereafter is up to you. And don't start throw rocks unless you are ready to duck


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