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Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... #421003
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To replace factory drums on a 70 Challenger

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: 70Challengerse] #421004
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11.75 rotors on 73-76 A body spindles....

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #421005
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11.75 rotors on 73-76 A body spindles....


plus some better than stock pads & a proper breakin procedure to bed them in


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Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: RapidRobert] #421006
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Could try these if you want a kit but they are kind of expensive www.mpbrakes.com or www.ssbrakes.com

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: dcoronet383] #421007
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Could try these if you want a kit but they are kind of expensive www.mpbrakes.com or www.ssbrakes.com




I don't see either of those choices as the best for the buck... & FWIW I really hate the look of the GM Master Cylinder & Booster that they use....

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #421008
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Could try these if you want a kit but they are kind of expensive www.mpbrakes.com or www.ssbrakes.com




I don't see either of those choices as the best for the buck... & FWIW I really hate the look of the GM Master Cylinder & Booster that they use....








You don't even want to waste your time or $$$ with the MP set up, SSBC makes some nice upgrades, if you go that route, invest in the best upgrade you can afford,....BUT, there's nothing wrong with using factory componets, if you can't find vintage B,E set ups, the A is the best next choice, along with the F/M/J spindles, caliper brackets can interchange amongst most of the knuckles, if the pin calipers are desired, you must be selective in where you mount the calipers in relation to swaybar links, bleeder height location, hose length, clearance issuses, proportion valve use, master selection, etc,.....when in doubt about the componets you may choose, check with the Moparts members, many skilled/experienced members to assist you in advoiding some pitfalls,....and keep in mind, simply buying a new "bolt-on" kit, dosen't assure you of trouble free installation .......don't be afraid of mixing factory componets either, just question if in doubt, better safe than sorry

Mike

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #421009
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11.75 rotors on 73-76 A body spindles....






I just checked www.rockauto.com and got some prices on the new stuff...

11.75" Rotors: $60 each new
inner,outer bearings & seal: $18/side new
Spindles with sheilds and 10.75 caliper adapters: $150-$200 pr for 73-76 A-body and $100-$150 for FMJ-body used
Calipers: $45-$60 each with pads $60 w/semi metalic pad new rebuilt
11.75 caliper adapters: $60-$100 used
caliper hoses: $60-100 pr braided new, $25 pr rubber new
disk master: $65 new rebuilt
adjustable proportioning valve: $45 (Mancini) new

I come up with $661 for all that. Minus $50+ if you use FMJ spindles. Minus $100 if you use $10.75 disks

For an A-body you will need some used upper control arms and lower ball joints.

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: 70Challengerse] #421010
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The factory 11.75 setup is better than what MP or SSBC sells. For some reason those aftermarket guys never figured out that 11.75 rotors are better than 11 inch rotors.

If you're willing to run larger rims then you can step up to even larger brakes but the costs go up significantly. The factory 11.75 setup is adequate for most any daily driver and is very cheap to install. The last swap meet I was at there were several vendors with disk brake knuckles for sale.

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: AndyF] #421011
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I did the 11.75 swap on my 71 Scamp using 73-76 A-body spindles. I used all new NAPA stuff, including non-Chinese rotors, got an E-berg aluminum MC, a Magnum HP adapter and heat shield, and a boneyard prop valve from a 73-76 A-body, boneyard slider caliper adapters from a 78 Cordoba. Cost me about $700 total, and the car stopped on a dime.


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Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: not_a_charger] #421012
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Looking for spindles, shields and caliper brackets?

I have A and FMJ spindle, shields and caliper brackets. I believe I have a both sets of small and large disc brackets.

Steve is pretty spot on regarding prices of the hard parts you'll need.

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: RobX4406] #421013
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I'll be installing Willwoods on the Dart this weekend. Just finished "pre-assembly" rotors hats safety wire etc. I'll post a report when done.

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: 70Challengerse] #421014
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Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: Ply72rr] #421015
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I think hands down the factory 11 3/4 upgrade wins,Ive done it many times and the stopping power is very impressive.When I was younger and poorer I have even gone to pick-your -part, and picked up every single part used for under $100.here is a link to the article explaining the swap and parts list you need.

http://www.moparaction.com/tech/archive/disc-main.html

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: Ply72rr] #421016
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The $399 price is fair for those parts but the point I made earlier is still valid. For some reason, none of these brake kit vendors seem to understand that the 11.75 kit is better and that it fits with stock 15 inch rims. I don't see any reason to bolt on the wimpy rotors when the 11.75 rotors are better and not anymore expensive.

Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: AndyF] #421017
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Switching from 4 whl drum brakes to disc / drum has been a very popular upgrade for years. IMO, the mod is way over-blown. The original and main reason for the mod was brake fade with multiple brake applications - mainly due to poor quality brake shoes. The issue of poor quality brake shoes has been addressed long ago, and unless you are doing some major towing or sports car type racing, you will never realize the expenditure. Take a 1/4 of the $ and upgrade your existing brake system with some quality semi or full metalic shoes and new drums and you will have all the braking you will ever need. Take the rest of the $ and put it in the motor, or some area that you can actually enjoy.


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Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: Crizila] #421018
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How about the Summit kits, are they junk?


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Re: Best disc brake set-up for the the buck... [Re: Crizila] #421019
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Who is making the semi metelic shoes?

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Who is making the semi metelic shoes?


Advance auto parts, JC Whitney, www.brakeperformance.com, www.discountbrakes.com, www.autopartswarehouse.com - and I'm sure there are many other outlets for semi metalic brake shoes.


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