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Re: 88 Dodge Dakota [Re: RoboGeek] #39274
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thats actually grey, and it will be the final color of the interior.

I haven't had much time to paint because of the freak rain storm thats been pounding us the last 3 days

not to mention I have a few rust problems of my own, just found this the other day.



it started out the size of a dime until I stuck a screw driver in there and pryed around, now its the size of a dollar!


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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #39275
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So I dont have to sand down to bare metal. I got like two layers of paint I know of. I also have a spot that bubbled so I took it down to bare metal and just sprayed rustoleum on it. DO I just sand down tothe first coat and rough that up a bit or just hit the top of the out coat. The person just painted over the original.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: alabama] #39276
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So I dont have to sand down to bare metal. I got like two layers of paint I know of. I also have a spot that bubbled so I took it down to bare metal and just sprayed rustoleum on it. DO I just sand down tothe first coat and rough that up a bit or just hit the top of the out coat. The person just painted over the original.




Make a carefull check on the rest of the paint if its bubbled sand it smooth, but no need to go to bare metal. Just a smooth clean surface, remember the time you take here reflects on the final paint.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: 69DartGT] #39277
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So I dont have to sand down to bare metal. I got like two layers of paint I know of. I also have a spot that bubbled so I took it down to bare metal and just sprayed rustoleum on it. DO I just sand down tothe first coat and rough that up a bit or just hit the top of the out coat. The person just painted over the original.




Make a carefull check on the rest of the paint if its bubbled sand it smooth, but no need to go to bare metal. Just a smooth clean surface, remember the time you take here reflects on the final paint.




So just clean my paint and scuff up the paint and fix any flaky bubble spots befor that before I paint.
having no experience I started to flake off some spots of the top coat and I even have one larger spot down to bare metal. Im thinking of using the gloss white on it. Man im excited but I will do my tailgate first.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: alabama] #39278
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i will post some pics of the project as I go.

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I guess Im getting a little post happy but doing construction I think I will use a bucket and one of those screens to drip my paint before applying. Just a thought

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: alabama] #39280
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I guess Im getting a little post happy but doing construction I think I will use a bucket and one of those screens to drip my paint before applying. Just a thought



Are you talking about like a paint screener/strainer, like you would use for an HVLP gun? That might reduce orangepeel, anyone else think so?

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: alabama] #39281
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So just clean my paint and scuff up the paint and fix any flaky bubble spots befor that before I paint.
having no experience I started to flake off some spots of the top coat and I even have one larger spot down to bare metal. Im thinking of using the gloss white on it. Man im excited but I will do my tailgate first.




If there is bubbling then I'd sand it until the surface is smooth and there are no more bubbles. I used 80, 180, then 320 before priming. I do not think you really need to get to bare metal. I do not think that the screen will help the orange peel. The ONLY thing that helped me was THIN paint. Thinner is better. It's WAY easier to apply another thin coat then to sand off a thick coat with orange peel (don't ask me how I know this...). Good luck and keep us posted!

After sanding:

After Painting:


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63 Blue Comet 260 Sedan- White w/blue stripes
Done using the "$50 Paint Job" method!
Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: joeshmo] #39282
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I guess Im getting a little post happy but doing construction I think I will use a bucket and one of those screens to drip my paint before applying. Just a thought



Are you talking about like a paint screener/strainer, like you would use for an HVLP gun? That might reduce orangepeel, anyone else think so?




Like the ones you put in a bucket when your doing int/ext paint on a house with a roller. Just a thought to make draining off your roller easier.As far as hvlp guns I dont know much about that

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: Mercurymarc] #39283
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Thanks mercury. Ive been reading like mad on this thread and im at a cross between spraying or rolling but I see all the results here are amazing which ever way. Great site, pleasant atmosphere.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: alabama] #39284
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got that hole fixed.



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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #39285
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If you spray instead of roll do you still put on very light coats or just use the paint and mix according to can. Like normal "automotive paint." I am think about using the brightside primer and paint. Spraying interior, door jambs, engine bay,and other hard places. Then Rolling exterior body.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: magna] #39286
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If you spray instead of roll do you still put on very light coats or just use the paint and mix according to can. Like normal "automotive paint." I am think about using the brightside primer and paint. Spraying interior, door jambs, engine bay,and other hard places. Then Rolling exterior body.




That's basically what I did, I shot the interior and behind the truck cab between the bed and cab area. I mixed the paint for spray.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: 69DartGT] #39287
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thats how I did my interior, I made it pretty thin so orange peal was virtualy nonexistant even after two coats.


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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #39288
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Has anyone used the Rust-Oleum Topside, which is suppose to have a higher gloss finish than the regular Rust-Oleum? I have had great success using the regular Rust-Oleum, but I found that I can order the Topside online and have it delivered for less than what it cost me to drive down the Mountain and buy the regular Rust-Oleum fron the store.
If you have used the Topside, is there any difference in the thinning or sanding process?

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: trikar] #39289
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Is there any special protocol for painting directly over metal? I sanded down my bondo and surrounding areas were stripped of paint completely. This was done with 60 grit and then worked 60-100-120-240. Is this smooth enough? Should I use primer or something first? Thanks for the help.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: joeshmo] #39290
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I wouldn't think you should have any problems, Rustoleum was designed to go over bare metal.

you may want to end with 320 grit though, but thats just my personal preference.


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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: THEYOUNGGUN53] #39291
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Hey,
I just joined so i could share everything thats been going on with the paint job on my 88 rx7, and ask a few questions. Ive been working on this in all my free time the past couple of weeks. I used brightside fire red lightly thinned (last 5 coats at least) with pentrol/mineral spirits. Used the roll and tip method, the double roller technique kept leaving orange peel for me.
Here are some before shots


Here it is in primer (should have went with white i think)



Here is the first coat, i was pretty troubled by all the runs/uneven coverage, i found that if I scraped a razer perpendicular to the panel along the run i could get it mostly flat before sanding it down a little more.


Final coat, (6th coat)


Hood polished, i had alot of texture in this, its hard to see on the pictures but various roller lines etc. kinda looks like subtle waves, i cant really feel them, and everything was dull from wetsanding.




Re-sanded the hood again 1000 grit this time (aggressive i know), burnt through some paint I can live with it for right now, any ideas on a fix? On the hood i used just straight meguiar's ultimate compound, took a while to buff out, probably 2 hrs.... i picked up some more aggressive polishing compound today to try.

Here are some reflections etc.


Burn through

More shiny reflections


So far i would like to say thanks to the person who recommended the squegee during wetsanding, works great.
And of course thanks to 69charger, and the fellow who tried brightside.

Edited post to include some pictures i left out.

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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: SammFC3s] #39292
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just a FYI - www.rolledon.com is back up and running so you can postwhore over there too.. lol

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: RoboGeek] #39293
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that looks amazing!!

lets see some daylight pics!


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